Talk:A Warm Place

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I've got to say, whenever I hear this song I feel lonely. -crazyninfan

When is this on closure?? Armac 22:30, 14 May 2007 (PDT)

It's used in a montage at the end of Tape 1, and in the opening sequence of Tape 2.--Leo3375 06:41, 15 May 2007 (PDT)

wasn't the version that was done with added vocals from Stella Soleil a legitimate, officially commissioned remix/mashup/version? shouldn't it be noted? Jgrizzy89 00:42, 28 May 2007 (PDT)



The Downward Spiral Motif

it sais "A melody in 'A Warm Place' is an inverted version of that used in 'Closer' and 'The Downward Spiral'."

i would like to see an explanation, like on the Piggy and Heresy page, because this seems to be a wrong statement, or i have the wrong idea of what is ment with the term 'inverted'.

is it the melody that kicks in at 1:00? or the chord progression? eitherway, when i listen to the song reversed, i don't hear anything that sounds like the TDS motif. nothing that would suggest Trent on purpose made the melody this way, other than making it ascending; in contrast to the TDS motif which is descending. but note-wise as well as rythm-wise it has nothing to do with the TDS motif. part of this melody however does, melody-wise and ryhtm-wise, look like the ending melody in Piggy when played reversed. but not the TDS motif. it's simply a different melody, both normal and reversed. who ever came up with this "fact"? Lupi 20:56, 10 March 2008 (PDT)

Yes, I would also like to see the tabs, it was really nice to see the differences between the motifs on each song. El_Legacy 13:26, 20 February 2009 (GMT)


i really don't think we should be including interpretations of songs that aren't specifically noted by TR or other relevant personnel. personal interpretation is exactly that, and it's not the job of ninwiki to put forward a particular stance on these matters. can we move it to the relevant talk page for any song/album articles with interpretations posted? - seasonsinthesky 10:27, 3 September 2010 (PDT)

Agreed, mostly because it can spoil the experience for somebody who will listen for the 1st time after reading about the song here.BenAkenobi 05:45, 4 September 2010 (PDT)
alright, i'm gonna go copy these sections to their relevant talk pages. - seasonsinthesky 19:10, 4 September 2010 (PDT)

Interpretation by Pomte

"A Warm Place" can be regarded as the turning point of the album. It is the only instrumental, discounting the practically inaudible spoken words at the beginning. Its tranquil and soothing nature highly contrasts with the other tracks on the album, which all contain loud and angry parts.

The previous track, "Big Man With A Gun," is arguably the most chaotic on the album. The narrator asserts his power and domination over samples of tortured screams. The last instance of "nothing can stop me now" in the album is shouted, and this is perhaps his last straw (no pun intended). At just over a minute and a half, "Big Man With A Gun" suddenly collapses, and "A Warm Place" starts immediately.

The narrator has begun a drastic change in point of view. He experiences a moment of clarity to truly consider his situation in a way unhindered by intoxicants, or perhaps enhanced by them. Backed by the melancholy piano tune, he realizes who he has become and what he has done. He had known subconsciously before, and he had voiced the varying attributes (the title of "The Becoming" being the most obvious example), but he had not yet come to grips with the real consequences of his character and actions, which differ from the extreme views he had expressed previously. "Warm" contrasts with the cold, indifferent quality of machines, which are sampled throughout the album. This "warm place" relates to the womb or to the rise in body temperature during intercourse, where life begins.

With the breathing straw sounds at the end of "A Warm Place," it segues into the next song, "Eraser," which begins as an instrumental. The straw sounds possess a sort of nasty texture, designating a change in tone. The heavy percussion beats permeate throughout: this is the rhythm required by his train of thought. As more sound layers are added, the narrator becomes increasingly disturbed by what he had realized in "A Warm Place". He begins an inner-battle on the only consequences that matter now: what he should do next. He denies certain arguments and favours others, evident by the periodic addition of more layers of mocking guitars. Briefly, the instrumental calms down a bit, and he lists the obvious in minimalistic terms ("[verb] me... [verb] you"). At the end, he has chosen a strongly desire for an end to the dilemma ("kill me"). A remix of "Eraser" being called "Eraser (denial; realization)" could be evidence of this.

"A Warm Place" and "Eraser" may be considered two acts to one song, with the former being critical and necessary for the latter. - Pomte 01:33, 3 March 2007

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