Talk:Judson Ogram Correctional Facility

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Some of the anagrams of Judson Ogram are rather interesting, such as "MAJOR SUN GOD". Could there be a clue here? --Mr z 21:59, 7 March 2007 (PST)


I have no idea the best way to share the text I pieced together, so hopefully someone can make a fine sculpture out of the raw clay I've just uploaded. Sorry about the brain-fart filename on the image file. --Mr z 23:36, 7 March 2007 (PST)


I searched for the quote and found that it's from Charles Darwin's "The Origin of Species". I have quoted the passage that the text seems to relate to. --justnine 12:24, 8 March 2007 (GMT)


I don't understand how the three websites that were discovered were discovered using the Survivalism vidoe... Are they names somewhere on the video that I just can't seem to find? Or were they on the USB keys alongside the video? Jgrizzy89 04:26, 8 March 2007 (PST)


The echoingthesound forum explains how it was found - see http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?t=20265&sid=f23daf9eac511945a7971825d9ec181b for details. --justnine 13:09, 8 March 2007 (PST)


Just say how it was found instead of linking. I'm curious myself about all these extra tracks that were with the survivalism Garage Band file. I don't have a mac, or any sound editing software, nor do I want to sit through an 100mb download. Could someone explain in full the extra sounds with the GB files and how a new Judson Ogram site was derived from it?--Velvolver 09:59, 15 March 2007 (PDT)

on The Water Turned to Blood the warning message does mention Judson Ogram Correctional Facility twice "On 3/13/07 Garage Band files for Survivalism were released on nin.com. Along with Survivalism, there was another file called Survivalism Our End Trip with some weird sounds. After rearranging the file trough a spectogram, this was found. The following case number for Judson Ogram was found:

Case number 6455da04
"

ylbissop 21:14, 7 May 2007 (PDT)


Other meanings for Boaz as in Hurricane boaz

In masonic tradition, Boaz is the symbol for strenth and one of the two pillars holding up the temple of solomon which was said to be architected by God.

There is also a old testiment figure with the name of Boaz.


For one, don't forget to sign with four ~'s, secondly, where did the name Boaz come from? and thirdly, due to the recent departure of Kurt Vonnegut, one of the greatest American novelists of our time (beeteedubs), I decided to re-read the very little known part 1 to Slaughterhouse V titled The Sirens of Titan. In this book, one of the best friends of the protagonist is named Boaz.

Boaz, after crashing a spaceship with the main character on Mercury, decides that he doesn't want to go back to civilization because he 'found him a place where he can do good without doing any harm' which was to sit around and not think about humanity until the day he dies, and spend his time with the unemotional creatures that live on Mercury because "hunger, envy, ambition, fear, indignation, religion, and sexual lust are irrelevant and unknown" to them.

Also, prior to making this decision, Boaz used to be the commanding officer in one of the regiments of the Army of Mars (read the book) and the way the Martian army was controlled was that all of the soldiers were installed with a brain effecting devise that could be turned on creating a painful, near paralyzing shock with the switch of a button. The commanding officers had these decises to control everyone, and Boaz described (after losing the devise and becoming friends with the main character) that he used to "pretend all his army life that he had understood what was going on, and that everything that was going on was just fine", but now that he doesn't have the devise, he realizes that he knew nothing about the world and was brainwashed himself from the power of the devises.

This might be the Boaz reference, considering we've been pointed towards Vonnegut before and that he is a HUGE moral-subject writer. Anyways~ Boaz makes me think - "Vonnegut"... Hope this helps! Jgrizzy89 17:37, 7 May 2007 (PDT)


In reference to my previous post: One of the extra tracks, survivalism to the end (or something like that) contained weird sounds, that when organized in a proper order (using the help of a spectrograph to find where the sections belonged) revealed a new case number (judson ogram site). All of this information is contained on the Survivalism wiki page.--Velvolver 13:00, 15 March 2007 (PDT)

Oh, and a side note, the date of the conversation with John of Boston happened AFTER the second conversation. It makes sense, since why would the Dr. do an evil thing after being blessed by John?--Velvolver 13:02, 15 March 2007 (PDT)

Marie ?

Where did the Marie character come from, how do you access her page, and how don't I know about this (if in fact, it is real)? Jgrizzy89 17:39, 7 May 2007 (PDT)

I dont think its was real. i looked back in the history of the page it was the only addition to the wiki by a user named Sumer Rain (or should i say rayne?). I am going out on a limb and removing it as speculation/junk till someone can come up with a login or link. ylbissop 23:28, 10 May 2007 (PDT)

No kidding. Born July 4th, 1960, but only 49 years old in Year Zero? Where'd the other 13 years go? --Mr z 05:49, 11 May 2007 (PDT)
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