Talk:Year Zero Research
Hi guys. I have a suggestion to make. How bout that, apart from the main story timeline we also compile a detailed timeline about how things have been found ? I have a hunch it might come in handy at some point, and some people will probably be asking about it anyway. The closest thing we have to this now is the "resumed" set of events in the main page of this wiki. I don't mind helping if you guys think it's a good idea (or if it's already being done and i haven't noticed).
After discussion on IRC, i'm starting that page :) S3phiroth 11:53, 20 February 2007 (PST)
Found this site the other day: http://inthistwilight.com/
May or may not be related, but I got the following email reply: Thank you for your email. We regret that the answers you seek are not here. Hopefully you will find what you are looking for soon.
There will be no changes or further information available in the near future.
Also, the source code for the page contains the following text:
!-- in this twilight -- meta name="Description" content="twilight is coming."
No idea how to create a wiki page, but I thought it beared posting...
I looked at the inthistwilight website again and they changed the code. It now says <meta name="Description" content="twilight is going." /> instead of the original "twilight is coming". In addition, the old page had the comment "!-- there are no secrets --" and now that comment is gone.
Would it be possible for somebody or some group of people to do the same bruteforce URL attack that was done to locate some of the hidden images? I'm sure something will turn up for the website.--Drake 00:56, 23 February 2007 (PST)
'I Am Trying To Believe' in YZ trailer
First off, I think there should be a trailer section added to the research page with a link to the QT trailer/page for 'Year Zero.'
Secondly, talking about the YZ trailer, a couple seconds into the trailer, a blue highway sign flashes across the screen. Pausing on it, though unclear, you can see that it reads "I AM TRYING TO BELIEVE." This happens before the camera jerking to show the Presence.
I have no idea how to help with wikis. So this is my two cents.
I'm very pleased to see that the Strong Leads section on Year Zero Research DOES NOT have 24.15.8 as a clue. This is a very very weak lead in my opinion. It still needs to get scrapped from the numbers page, but I'm not bold enough to do it.
Also, as posted below behind the 24.19.X clues, I think the hypothesis that it's yearzero's track listings is completely shot now...And the bible references are to obvious and don't match up with anything in the ARG.
If it was a bible reference, it would be obvious like Carolines password (Mat)--Velvolver 08:56, 1 March 2007 (PST)
Year Zero Homepage Observation
Notice, when you go to:
And view the source, the order of links (for the imagemaps) is in the following order:
img/31.html img/22.html img/14.html img/25.html img/10.html img/03.html img/19.html img/28.html img/07.html img/39.html img/12.html
Which could suggest a new pattern...
31 22 14 25 10 03 19 28 07 39 12
When converted to letters (the ones in brackets mean I've counted 27 as A again, etc):
(E) V N Y J C S (B) G (M) L
... Nothing? Maybe...
It's not linked from the page http://yearzero.nin.com/, but there is also http://yearzero.nin.com/img/86.html as well. It appears to be identical to http://yearzero.nin.com/0024/. I suspect that they're revealing links over time, so this may be forthcoming. The JPEGs of the album cover from 86.html and /0024/ are byte-for-byte identical, but named differently. --justnine, 12:48 07 March 2007
thanks for the fixes s3ph! added what i found so far. there's more there though. --killjoy 01:12, 12 March 2007 (PDT)
In Firefox, you can find all the outbound links in a page by pressing Ctrl-I to get the page information, and then selecting the "Links" tab. (Alternately, you can right click and use "View Page Info.") Is there a similar technique in IE? Is it worth adding this to the note that gives hints on reading these websites? --Mr z 21:38, 12 March 2007 (PDT)
Tabulated Sites List
I have tabulated the sites list and added direct site links, also adding the IP address with the hope that we can plot a sequence in the IP addresses and discover newer sites. If more space is needed in future, shrink the direct site links with square brackets - it turns something like http://blah/ into . --justnine 13:59, 13 March 2007 (GMT)
Tracklists about God
Notice how everything on this album is about God...
"The Great Destroyer" - affects on frogs
I was listening to Year Zero this weekend. At around dusk, when the frogs get annoyingly aboxious in the field near my apartment in western Washington I went on my back deck while "The Great Destroyer" was playing with the door open. When the lyrics were done and the crazy sounds began the frogs got much louder than they were. A minute or so into the noise I began hearing what I presumed to be the slapping of their bellies on the concrete as if they were drawn to the sound. When the song was over and changed to "The Beginning of the End" (Random play), the frogs were completely silent.
I can't help but wonder if the sounds were intentionally made to promote this rise in the frogs. With what the lyrics and title are implying, Reznor's change in tone to a semi-prophet (I feel if he were a true prophet he would be a bit more straight with his prophecies and not require people pay to join his fan club to submit inquiries like this to him directly), and the plague of frogs summoned by Moses preceding the Exodus from Egypt; does he really hope that people will not see that he is "The Great Destroyer"?
The album is about God and the beast's manipulation of God's will. I am trying to believe that Reznor's intentions in his recent works that he is trying to warn us of this. I feel that he interchangibly uses God references to both point out this manipulation and to point out that there is still a good God that we must align ourselves with, and that his will is not the one manipulated by the beast to control the masses.
This album has opened my eyes and caused me to pursue more knowledge on the prophecies. Yesterday, Easter, I came accross this site - http://www.worldslastchance.com/. While I am disinclined to fall for every off the wall apocalyptic conspiracy theory, which I have seen too many of, this one seems different. It is very straightforward and I wonder if what is stated in the article on this site is what Reznor is cryptically trying to warn mankind of. I am not sure of the reaction this will get, however, I cannot be silent about what I have found over the weekend since listening to Year Zero. --Slingblade 4/9/2007 (PST).
Well, whatever the hell is going on, this is an amazing album with a unbelievable interactive back story. That's all I could ever have hoped for or dreamt of... -Crazyninfan 19:23, 19 April 2007 (PDT)
The number 6
Ok, I'm probably just talking out my ass, but has anyone else noticed the frequency of the number 6. What I've found(I know it's cheesy, but I was bored): Halo 24, 2+4=6 _-_ Year Zero is 2022 2+2+2=6 _-_ 105th airborne 1+5=6 _-_ Number of letters in Another Version Of The Truth=24 2+4=6 _-_ Time of the use of opal in the survivalism video 2:13 2+3+1=6 _-_ First sighting of the Presence was 2/4/0000 2+4=6 _-_
Ok. honestly I just have too much time on my hands. And it could also be interpreted af the number 24. But I like 6 better.
i'm not saying it couldn't be significant but if 24 is significant then so is 6 and so is 2 when you start adding numbers that way your getting into the realm of [Numerology] Ylbissop 21:34, 16 April 2007 (PDT)
This may seem to be a random question but ...
I was finished with catching up on all the YZ websites and decided to see if i could find anything else - I went to ask.com and typed in Year Zero.
I found this: http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1978cambodia.html
Seems like the reference may have something to do with the name of the album ... unless we have a better reason for the new timeline in America?
Psynn 14:23, 17 April 2007 (PDT)
Please stop posting about the numbers on the case. They lead to the Flood wreckage on The Mailstrom and are ALREADY present on the wiki, see Year Zero. This is the 6th time I've had to remove them from a talk page, as people seem to want to post them on EVERY TALK PAGE ON THE WIKI. PLEASE STOP ALREADY --BurnHavoc 22:49, 18 April 2007 (PDT)
Has anybody checked the album tracks and the extra sound bits for back masking? I don't personally have the time, seeing as it will be a lengthy process, but if you run the wav format files through a program found at http://www.reversespeech.com/rssoftware.htm you can reverse them and look for hidden messages like the ones found in stairway to heaven and other such songs. I wouldn't put it past Trent.
After a brief look at this site, I am pretty sure it is NOT related. Inspired by, possibly, but not related. Anyone else wanna take a look and make a call on it? TheLastRaven 14:32, 11 June 2007 (PDT)
7=the end? (7 as a numerological message)
ok, the number is 13102951040 (survivalisum phone clip).Now, using numerology, this number becomes 7. in biblical numerology 7 is the number of spirtual purity, but in another context the number becomes something compleatly new: the word Abadon (hebrew for hell) is found in the bible 7 times. there are also 7 deadly sins. now this may seem unimportant until you take into context the message you hear after dialing 13102951040. this message talks about the injustice people suffer under the government. Now, take into account the title of another of NIN's political attaks the the government: Capital G. G is the seventh letter of the alphabet. G is also the fist letter in old G.W.bush's name. Ghenna ( not sure on that spelling) or the end of days also begins with G. so, persumably the number 7 was used intendtionly. 7 seems to be a reoccuring theme.
now, I'm not saying these connections mean anything, but it is interesting at least.
on a side note, i also thought this was ammusing, given my previous statemnts on the #7. Bush=40(2+21+19+8=40) 40 is the number of death in the bible(it rained for 40 day and 40 nights, ect.)
Hey guys i just joined i've been browsing for as long and thought i'd give something back. would it be a good idea to pipe all of the Year Zero sites such as http://anotherversionofthetruth.com/ through a cache site as most if not all of the links no longer work due to sites being changed domain or simply just dead. I'm just proposing something like this
Which would give a permanent link to a working version of the site if not changing the link simply ref it ? like
Another Version Of The Truth 
By no means am i good at using wiki still getting used to it but it was just a thought