https://www.nin.wiki/api.php?action=feedcontributions&user=Electric&feedformat=atomnin.wiki - User contributions [en]2024-03-28T08:47:30ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.34.4https://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Bridge_School_Benefit&diff=12960Bridge School Benefit2007-06-09T03:17:55Z<p>Electric: /* Setlist */</p>
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The 2006 '''Bridge School Benefit''' took place on October 21 and 22, 2006, at the Shoreline Amphitheatre in Mountain View, CA. The Bridge School Benefit is an annual benefit concert organized by Neil Young and his wife to raise money and awareness for the Bridge School, which provides education and support for disabled children and their familes.<br />
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These concerts were unique in that they were the first (and so far only) solo acoustic concerts for [[Trent Reznor]]. He was backed by a string quartet, playing a selection of [[Nine Inch Nails]] songs, including instrumental pieces.<br />
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==Line-Up==<br />
*'''Vanessa Freebairn-Smith:''' Cello<br />
*'''Ana Lenchantin:''' Cello<br />
*'''Pablo Motta:''' Upright bass<br />
*'''Trent Reznor:''' Vocals, piano, small percussion<br />
*'''Martin St. Pierre:''' Violin, sitar<br />
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==Stage Set-Up==<br />
The stage set-up for both of these performances was very basic. Bridge School students and their parents got to sit at the back of the stage to view the performance. Lights shone on Reznor and the string ensemble while large monitors above and around the stage projected the performance.<br />
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==Setlist==<br />
The set-list is not offically know, but it has been said that songs such as "Piggy", Hurt", and "The Fragile". Full report at http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/trent_reznor_performs_first_solo_show_at_benefit.html.<br />
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==Tour Dates==<br />
{|<br />
| '''Date/Location'''<br />
| '''Venue'''<br />
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| [[2006/10/21 Mountain View, CA]]<br />
| Shoreline Amphitheatre<br />
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| [[2006/10/22 Mountain View, CA]]<br />
| Shoreline Amphitheatre<br />
|}<br />
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[[Category:Tours]]</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Related_bands_and_artists&diff=12665Related bands and artists2007-05-25T15:49:36Z<p>Electric: /* Queens Of The Stone Age */</p>
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<div>This is a list of bands and artists related to NIN in some significant way. Some have opened for NIN on tour, some have collaborated with Reznor, some have developed grudges against him, and some are current projects of past NIN members.<br />
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* [[Bauhaus]]<br />
* [[Courtney Love]]<br />
* [[David Bowie]]<br />
* [[The Icarus Line]]<br />
* [[Marilyn Manson]]<br />
* [[Peaches]]<br />
* [[Prick]]<br />
* [[Saul Williams]]<br />
* [[Tapeworm]]<br />
* [[Tori Amos]]<br />
* [[TV On the Radio]]<br />
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Those without their own articles are listed below in alphabetical order.<br />
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==A Perfect Circle==<br />
A Perfect Circle was formed in 1999 by Billy Howerdel, a guitar tech for NIN, Tool, and Smashing Pumpkins (he bears some resemblance to Billy Corgan). Although Howerdel had originally envisioned having a female vocalist, [[Maynard James Keenan]] offered his vocal abilities to the project after hearing some demos. [[Danny Lohner]], [[Jeordie White]], and [[Josh Freese]] are among the other members. APC opened for NIN during [[Fragility v2.0]] in 2000.<br />
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==Army of Anyone==<br />
Army of Anyone is the new Filter, with [[Richard Patrick]] and the old members of Stone Temple Pilots. Their first record came out late 2006.<br />
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==Black Light Burns==<br />
As the successor to The Damning Well, Black Light Burns also includes [[Danny Lohner]] on guitar/keyboards/sound design and [[Josh Freese]] on drums. However, like NIN, this is mainly Wes Borland's project in the studio, with the other musicians serving for the live component.<br />
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==The Damning Well==<br />
The Damning Well is a rock band comprising several NIN members: [[Richard Patrick]] on vocals, [[Danny Lohner]] on bass, and [[Josh Freese]] on drums, as well as Wes Borland of Limp Bizkit on guitar. So far, they have only one released song, "Awakening", on the ''Underworld'' soundtrack (2003). The rest of the album they have recorded has no signs of ever being released.<br />
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==Filter==<br />
Filter was formed by [[Richard Patrick]] after his departure from NIN. They have 3 albums.<br />
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==Guns N' Roses==<br />
[[Robin Finck]] and [[Josh Freese]] have played for Guns N' Roses. Various hidden references to GNR exist in [[nin.com]]'s "current" photos.<br />
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==nearLY==<br />
nearLY is [[Jerome Dillon]]'s solo project. The album ''reminder'' (2005) is inspired by Dillon's recurring dream.<br />
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==Nine Inch Dix==<br />
A Californian hip-hop group created by Snoop Dogg in 2004. Their first album ''Cumming Soon'' will come out in summer 2007. In the words of Snoop Dogg,<br />
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:''Nine Inch Dix was a group that we created years ago at the studio with Dr. Dre. Me, Mel-Man, a couple of other cats, just because we liked the Nine Inch Nails and we was like “We need to be the first black rock group called the Nine Inch Dix.” We was just clowning around and all we used to do was take old school songs, and put our own twist on it, like “I’d Rather Fuck With U”, the shit Eazy-E and all them niggas used to do back then? Take songs and then just put nasty shit on them.''<br />
:''The Nine Inch Dix is creating a fan base and really making some good music that’s good for the soul and good for the heart, because it’s shit that niggas couldn’t normally say! We’re saying when we’re the Nine Inch Dix, we don’t give a fuck!''<br />
:''Snoop Dogg, Soopafly, Lil Half Dead, Jelly Roll, Mel-Man, Sean Lewan, Lil G, LT Hutton… it’ a lot of members man! We got members man! Cause on certain songs, niggas just slide by and get to singing, then nigga you in the group! That’s what it is! Oh yeah, and you gotta be nine inches though, but that ain’t for me to tell, the bitches gotta say that!'' [http://www.dubcnn.com/interviews/snoopdogg07/part3/]<br />
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==Puscifer==<br />
[[Maynard James Keenan]]'s side project, Puscifer, has 2 officially released songs: "REV 22:20" and "The Undertaker (Renholdër Mix)" on the ''Underworld'' soundtracks. A remix of the former, "REV 22:20 (REV 4:20 Mix)" by [[Charlie Clouser]], was on the ''Saw II'' soundtrack. Further work is in progress with [[Danny Lohner]], Lustmord, and others.<br />
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==Tweaker==<br />
[[Chris Vrenna]]'s electronic/jazz project Tweaker performed the ''Doom 3'' title theme instead of NIN. Tweaker has 2 full-length albums, with a new one set for 2007.<br />
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==Queens Of The Stone Age==<br />
Queens Of The Stone Age opened for NIN during the autumn leg of the [[With Teeth arena tour]]. [[Dave Grohl]] has played for both bands in the studio. Reznor has provided guest vocals for QOTSA's 2007 record, ''Era Vulgaris''. Unfourtunately, the song, ''Era Vulgaris'', is said not to have made the final cut, though it may become a bonus track.[http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003549969]<br />
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[[Category:Related to NIN]]</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Act_Patriotic&diff=12582Talk:Act Patriotic2007-05-23T23:03:59Z<p>Electric: /* Real Discovery */</p>
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<div>== Discovery? ==<br />
What are subnets and how does one go about scanning them? In other words, the discovery of this site is a complete mystery to me; I don't get it. Anyone care to expand a little bit? Thanks much. [[User:Tsguitar|Tsguitar]] 22:55, 23 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
:Subnets in this context refer to ranges of IP addresses that are the same in the first three bytes, and differ in the fourth byte. For example, 192.168.1.0 through 192.168.1.255 comprise one subnet. (Each component of an IP address is 1 byte and therefore can have a value from 0 to 255.) So, by "scanning a subnet," they mean they've taken existing ARG website IP addresses, and searched for active web servers on the other 255 IP addresses associated with that subnet. Note that webservers are very unlikely (though it's not impossible) to have an IP address ending in 0 or 255. (Networking fancypants will be quick to point out oversimplifications in my explanation, but that's the basic idea.) --[[User:Mr z|Mr z]] 05:31, 24 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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added links to clarify [[User:Ylbissop|ylbissop]] 01:03, 24 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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==bad request?==<br />
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anyone else getting the message "Bad Request (Invalid Hostname)" when they click the link? perhaps the server's down, or maybe it's something else? not sure. [[User:Tocz|Tocz]] 21:49, 26 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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I am too. something weird is going on. Maybe we accidently found this page and it's really in one of the new garage band files? [[User:Blank|Blank]] 22:02, 26 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Maybe it was the origanal thing for exhibit 24. It's not on there list too. [[User:Blank|Blank]] 03:42, 28 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Perhaps we discovered it too early.<br />
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:::Well, either way, it's been taken down. Should we remove it from the home page? --[[User:Electric|Electric]] 11:32, 29 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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:I was actually thinking that maybe Reznor/the company got mad/frustrated that we found this page before it was finished/edited (as we did with others) and since we found it early, he/they scrapped it and will/has put it onto another page. Kind of, when we scanned those subnets and found this page, we were kind of - in essence - reading an authors work before they were finished with the novel... So maybe it'll show up in a different way...<br />
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:But I don't think it should be taken off the front page, but I think we should put a hyphen with info on it being scrapped on the main page's link. [[User:Jgrizzy89|Jgrizzy89]] 19:49, 29 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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This page existed before the bad request as a transmition in progress perhaps it's part of the storyline could BOM have done this? could a change in the timeline? just thoughts [[User:Ylbissop|ylbissop]] 21:54, 29 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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==Real Discovery==<br />
On Echoing The Sound Twisterxiz is stating that Act Patriotic was found in Vessel during 3:03 to 3:06 in the echoing voices. It was found the same way as the pain wreckage. [[User:Blank|Blank]] 02:29, 10 May 2007 (PDT)<br />
:Heard a voice during that time. Sounds like "break", but we all know it's propably act patrioctic. haha. oh well. --[[User:Electric|Electric]] 14:03, 20 May 2007 (PDT)<br />
:: It's one syllable, so it's not Act Patriotic. You guys might be on to something. --[[User:Tony|Tony]]<sup>[[User_talk:Tony|converse!]]</sup> 14:15, 20 May 2007 (PDT)<br />
:::I was just online at the time and saw it. sorry if it's wrong.[[User:Blank|Blank]] 01:08, 21 May 2007 (PDT)<br />
::::I hope we're onto something. --[[User:Electric|Electric]] 16:03, 23 May 2007 (PDT)</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Act_Patriotic&diff=12445Talk:Act Patriotic2007-05-20T21:03:50Z<p>Electric: /* Real Discovery */</p>
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<div>== Discovery? ==<br />
What are subnets and how does one go about scanning them? In other words, the discovery of this site is a complete mystery to me; I don't get it. Anyone care to expand a little bit? Thanks much. [[User:Tsguitar|Tsguitar]] 22:55, 23 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
:Subnets in this context refer to ranges of IP addresses that are the same in the first three bytes, and differ in the fourth byte. For example, 192.168.1.0 through 192.168.1.255 comprise one subnet. (Each component of an IP address is 1 byte and therefore can have a value from 0 to 255.) So, by "scanning a subnet," they mean they've taken existing ARG website IP addresses, and searched for active web servers on the other 255 IP addresses associated with that subnet. Note that webservers are very unlikely (though it's not impossible) to have an IP address ending in 0 or 255. (Networking fancypants will be quick to point out oversimplifications in my explanation, but that's the basic idea.) --[[User:Mr z|Mr z]] 05:31, 24 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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added links to clarify [[User:Ylbissop|ylbissop]] 01:03, 24 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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==bad request?==<br />
<br />
anyone else getting the message "Bad Request (Invalid Hostname)" when they click the link? perhaps the server's down, or maybe it's something else? not sure. [[User:Tocz|Tocz]] 21:49, 26 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
I am too. something weird is going on. Maybe we accidently found this page and it's really in one of the new garage band files? [[User:Blank|Blank]] 22:02, 26 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
Maybe it was the origanal thing for exhibit 24. It's not on there list too. [[User:Blank|Blank]] 03:42, 28 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
Perhaps we discovered it too early.<br />
<br />
:::Well, either way, it's been taken down. Should we remove it from the home page? --[[User:Electric|Electric]] 11:32, 29 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
:I was actually thinking that maybe Reznor/the company got mad/frustrated that we found this page before it was finished/edited (as we did with others) and since we found it early, he/they scrapped it and will/has put it onto another page. Kind of, when we scanned those subnets and found this page, we were kind of - in essence - reading an authors work before they were finished with the novel... So maybe it'll show up in a different way...<br />
<br />
:But I don't think it should be taken off the front page, but I think we should put a hyphen with info on it being scrapped on the main page's link. [[User:Jgrizzy89|Jgrizzy89]] 19:49, 29 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
This page existed before the bad request as a transmition in progress perhaps it's part of the storyline could BOM have done this? could a change in the timeline? just thoughts [[User:Ylbissop|ylbissop]] 21:54, 29 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
==Real Discovery==<br />
On Echoing The Sound Twisterxiz is stating that Act Patriotic was found in Vessel during 3:03 to 3:06 in the echoing voices. It was found the same way as the pain wreckage. [[User:Blank|Blank]] 02:29, 10 May 2007 (PDT)<br />
:Heard a voice during that time. Sounds like "break", but we all know it's propably act patrioctic. haha. oh well. --[[User:Electric|Electric]] 14:03, 20 May 2007 (PDT)</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Related_bands_and_artists&diff=11655Related bands and artists2007-05-03T20:29:27Z<p>Electric: /* Queens Of The Stone Age */</p>
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<div>This is a list of bands and artists related to NIN in some significant way. Some have opened for NIN on tour, some have collaborated with Reznor, some have developed grudges against him, and some are current projects of past NIN members.<br />
<br />
* [[Bauhaus]]<br />
* [[Courtney Love]]<br />
* [[David Bowie]]<br />
* [[The Icarus Line]]<br />
* [[Marilyn Manson]]<br />
* [[Peaches]]<br />
* [[Prick]]<br />
* [[Saul Williams]]<br />
* [[Tapeworm]]<br />
* [[Tori Amos]]<br />
* [[TV On the Radio]]<br />
<br />
Those without their own articles are listed below in alphabetical order.<br />
<br />
==A Perfect Circle==<br />
A Perfect Circle was formed in 1999 by Billy Howerdel, a guitar tech for NIN, Tool, and Smashing Pumpkins (he bears some resemblance to Billy Corgan). Although Howerdel had originally envisioned having a female vocalist, [[Maynard James Keenan]] offered his vocal abilities to the project after hearing some demos. [[Danny Lohner]], [[Jeordie White]], and [[Josh Freese]] are among the other members. APC opened for NIN during [[Fragility v2.0]] in 2000.<br />
<br />
==Army of Anyone==<br />
Army of Anyone is the new Filter, with [[Richard Patrick]] and the old members of Stone Temple Pilots. Their first record came out late 2006.<br />
<br />
==Black Light Burns==<br />
As the successor to The Damning Well, Black Light Burns also includes [[Danny Lohner]] on guitar/keyboards/sound design and [[Josh Freese]] on drums. However, like NIN, this is mainly Wes Borland's project in the studio, with the other musicians serving for the live component.<br />
<br />
==The Damning Well==<br />
The Damning Well is a rock band comprising several NIN members: [[Richard Patrick]] on vocals, [[Danny Lohner]] on bass, and [[Josh Freese]] on drums, as well as Wes Borland of Limp Bizkit on guitar. So far, they have only one released song, "Awakening", on the ''Underworld'' soundtrack (2003). The rest of the album they have recorded has no signs of ever being released.<br />
<br />
==Filter==<br />
Filter was formed by [[Richard Patrick]] after his departure from NIN. They have 3 albums.<br />
<br />
==Guns N' Roses==<br />
[[Robin Finck]] and [[Josh Freese]] have played for Guns N' Roses. Various hidden references to GNR exist in [[nin.com]]'s "current" photos.<br />
<br />
==nearLY==<br />
nearLY is [[Jerome Dillon]]'s solo project. The album ''reminder'' (2005) is inspired by Dillon's recurring dream.<br />
<br />
==Nine Inch Dix==<br />
A Californian hip-hop group created by Snoop Dogg in 2004. Their first album ''Cumming Soon'' will come out in summer 2007. In the words of Snoop Dogg,<br />
<br />
:''Nine Inch Dix was a group that we created years ago at the studio with Dr. Dre. Me, Mel-Man, a couple of other cats, just because we liked the Nine Inch Nails and we was like “We need to be the first black rock group called the Nine Inch Dix.” We was just clowning around and all we used to do was take old school songs, and put our own twist on it, like “I’d Rather Fuck With U”, the shit Eazy-E and all them niggas used to do back then? Take songs and then just put nasty shit on them.''<br />
:''The Nine Inch Dix is creating a fan base and really making some good music that’s good for the soul and good for the heart, because it’s shit that niggas couldn’t normally say! We’re saying when we’re the Nine Inch Dix, we don’t give a fuck!''<br />
:''Snoop Dogg, Soopafly, Lil Half Dead, Jelly Roll, Mel-Man, Sean Lewan, Lil G, LT Hutton… it’ a lot of members man! We got members man! Cause on certain songs, niggas just slide by and get to singing, then nigga you in the group! That’s what it is! Oh yeah, and you gotta be nine inches though, but that ain’t for me to tell, the bitches gotta say that!'' [http://www.dubcnn.com/interviews/snoopdogg07/part3/]<br />
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==Puscifer==<br />
[[Maynard James Keenan]]'s side project, Puscifer, has 2 officially released songs: "REV 22:20" and "The Undertaker (Renholdër Mix)" on the ''Underworld'' soundtracks. A remix of the former, "REV 22:20 (REV 4:20 Mix)" by [[Charlie Clouser]], was on the ''Saw II'' soundtrack. Further work is in progress with [[Danny Lohner]], Lustmord, and others.<br />
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==Tweaker==<br />
[[Chris Vrenna]]'s electronic/jazz project Tweaker performed the ''Doom 3'' title theme instead of NIN. Tweaker has 2 full-length albums, with a new one set for 2007.<br />
<br />
==Queens Of The Stone Age==<br />
Queens Of The Stone Age opened for NIN during the winter leg of the [[With Teeth arena tour]]. [[Dave Grohl]] has played for both bands in the studio. Reznor has provided guest vocals for QOTSA's 2007 record, ''Era Vulgaris''. Unfourtunately, the song, ''Era Vulgaris'', is said not to have made the final cut.[http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003549969]<br />
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[[Category:Related to NIN]]</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Squires_Of_Dimness&diff=11652Talk:Squires Of Dimness2007-05-03T20:04:24Z<p>Electric: New page: Even though this basically spits on NIN, I find this hilarious. Especially when Aaron is portrayed as a pseudo goth. --~~~~</p>
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<div>Even though this basically spits on NIN, I find this hilarious. Especially when Aaron is portrayed as a pseudo goth. --[[User:Electric|Electric]] 13:04, 3 May 2007 (PDT)</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Velvolver&diff=11506User talk:Velvolver2007-04-30T23:24:24Z<p>Electric: Kurt Vonnegut</p>
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<div>Hey, I've noticed you on the Wiki. You're doing great - adding a lot of great content. I also noticed that on a talk page, you signed your name the manual way (or didn't sign at all). There's a trick to it - type four ~ in a row, and you'll get your "signature". You can also press the "Signature" button, which is second from the right on the bar above the edit textbox. Thanks for all your contributions! --[[User:Tony|Tony]] 18:53, 1 March 2007 (PST)<br />
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== grohl ==<br />
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Don't add stuff to (or create) articles unless it's productive. --[[User:Tony|Tony]] 17:49, 5 March 2007 (PST)<br />
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== Banned ==<br />
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Well, you're being banned for one day. It's the least amount of time I can ban you for. You created two shit articles, and there's probably more. --[[User:Tony|Tony]] 17:52, 5 March 2007 (PST)<br />
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Those articles about Grohl and Love were absolutely true, though mainly negative. Leave it up to others to add the history. And if you think it's a lie then why did Trent not allow Grohl to open for him recently? Plus we all know about love.<br />
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==Talk pages==<br />
You need to contact people through user talk pages (the Discussion tab at the top of user pages). If you use their regular user page, they won't get the message. Plus, remember to sign your name by typing four tildas (~) in a row. [[User:Tony|Tony]] 13:43, 22 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== [[User:Grantzprice|Grantzprice]] 11:56, 4 April 2007 (PDT) ==<br />
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Thanks for the tip on adding signatures.<br />
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== Reviews ==<br />
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What you're describing sounds like [http://www.echoingthesound.org ETS]. I believe that the discussion thing would fall flat on it's face, and we already have (as mentioned before) a place for that - ETS. --[[User:Tony|Tony]] 12:42, 8 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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But ETS fucking sucks, and we already had a remix space at ninremixes.com-[[User:Velvolver|Velvolver]] 14:32, 8 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== IRC banning ==<br />
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I'll see if I can get you unbanned. Try not to pull an Andy level of annoyance. :P --[[User:BurnHavoc|BurnHavoc]] 14:35, 13 April 2007 (EST)<br />
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Such a shame that the people with the most to share are always the ones who receive punishment for the stupidity of other imbeciles. I read through your old posts. They had no reason to ban you. KayCee sounds like a complete bitch... -[[User:Crazyninfan|Crazyninfan]] 16:21, 13 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the support! I try to have a good time, I think some people take the stereotypical nin image to far in acting gloomy and moody 24/7 -[[User:Velvolver|Velvolver]] 21:41, 13 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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It's weird though, Trent specifically said he hates fans like that, and that his music is an outlet for his own problems, not for other people to feed upon and become what he speaks of. I got the new album a week early because of a screw up at insound. Not that many people who I have let listen to it liked it, simply because it wasn't depressing. Case in point, if you wanna listen to music that is made specifically to make you empty inside, listen to one of the other thousands of crap bands out there. If you want to hear an artistic, inspiring expression of self, listen to NIN. There the whole reason I learned to play guitar. Whenever I play for someone, I usually play my joke version of Terrible Lie, (Terrible Fries), although I will occasionaly sing the correct lyrics if I need to release some tension. Wish is a good song too. Case in Point, if you can't take a simple joke, then don't go somewhere or talk to people that are going to upset you. Hell, if you watch the tour side of closure, that's pretty much all that Trent does is go around and have fun. And you don't see him now, sitting in a corner crying because someone says his hair looks retarded short (I actually like it), or pissed off because of whatever. My advice to whoever it is you made mad--- GET OVER IT> -[[User:Crazyninfan|Crazyninfan]] 15:40, 14 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Mailstrom S/W's ==<br />
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We already know they're in advance. So is finding [[Exterminal]] (off of CD itself) and [[Free Rebel Art]] (from CD booklet). No need to say anything other than "Not live until April 17th" because the only thing the pages contain is "Data In Transit". --[[User:BurnHavoc|BurnHavoc]] 14:40, 13 April 2007 (EST)<br />
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:And by "We" you mean people that already know. I'm writing that in for someone who perhaps has been away from the ARG, or is new to the ARG, or just someone who is confused by the fact that the page is blank. Not everyone here is as up to speed as us -[[User:Velvolver|Velvolver]] 12:58, 13 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Sandbox ==<br />
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I don't know if other peoples stuff are just getting deleted, if they are I'm sorry, but as far as I can tell you and I have the entire Sandbox page dedicated to us. -[[User:Crazyninfan|Crazyninfan]] 16:25, 13 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Year Zero Fact Page ==<br />
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Yo, I actually asked him to make most of thoes edits. Several of the topics on that page have entire Wiki pages of their own so theres no point in having anything more than short descriptions and a link to the full article on the fact page. Unless you want to I'm gonna trim most of your edits to leave just a short description and the link to the full articles. Sorry :/ [[User:BurnHavoc|BurnHavoc]] 08:04, 16 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Well I see the tidbits about the presence being seen in switzerland (The fact that' it's being seen world wide is very important) and other things from the other topics are on their individual pages. so it's ok -[[User:Velvolver|Velvolver]] 08:58, 16 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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==Thing==<br />
Thanks. --[[User:Tony|Tony]]<sup>[[User_talk:Tony|converse!]]</sup> 17:40, 17 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Kurt Vonnegut ==<br />
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Hey, I noticed on your page that you mentioned the death of Kurt Vonnegut. I actually might have done the same thing...if it crossed my mind, haha. I've only read "All The Kings Men" and "Harrison Bergeron", but you could tell the guy was brilliant. Just felt like saying that. --[[User:Electric|Electric]] 16:24, 30 April 2007 (PDT)</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Mysterious_Videos&diff=11456Talk:Mysterious Videos2007-04-29T19:11:10Z<p>Electric: Survivalism Connection?</p>
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<div>== Hoax! ==<br />
Isn't it pretty clear that this is a hoax? Firefox users do this: right-click on the [http://yearzero.nin.com Year Zero page] and select "View Page Info." It gives the last time the page was modified a couple of lines above the "Meta" box. If they added these videos to the site, this date would've changed on 9 Apr, then again (on 10 Apr? or whatever date they were removed) when the videos were removed. Currently the modify date on the site is still 4 Apr 2007. [[User:MadCactus|MadCactus]] 15:17, 10 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
:There's a lot of evidence to indicate that they were never up on NIN.com, not that they aren't real. The jury is still out on that, as if they are a hoax they're extrodinarily elaborate. But this page isn't about what is or is not real, this is about the facts and what we know for sure. "Pretty clear" or "somewhat obvious" don't make truths. Until we know for sure, it'll still be undecided. Now real or not, though, I have to admit they were pretty damn cool videos. [[User:GrayscaleRain|GrayscaleRain]] 15:55, 10 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
:: The only evidence to them not being up on nin.com is the admin saying he polls the site. Unfortunatly it's not hard to change the site for a short ammount of time and revert it back without chaning the "modified" timestamp on the original page... including virtual directroy redirecting and copy&paste. The trackers poll the site every now and then, not 24/7. It's not hard to get a temporary change through until they knew someone downloaded the videos.<br />
:::So like I said... the jury's still out on this one. [[User:GrayscaleRain|GrayscaleRain]] 21:52, 10 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
::::No, it's fake. They're bad, bad, horrible quality videos. It's fake. ETS admins have more knowledge than you may think.--[[User:Tony|Tony]]<sup>[[User_talk:Tony|converse!]]</sup> 11:21, 16 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Survivalism Connection? ==<br />
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''The first is a video of someone searching over a website...''<br />
<br />
A man is on a computer in the Survivalism video. Is this a possible connection? --[[User:Electric|Electric]] 12:11, 29 April 2007 (PDT)</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=BallgameOver.mp3&diff=11455BallgameOver.mp32007-04-29T19:04:03Z<p>Electric: /* Transcription */</p>
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<div>ballgameOver.mp3 ( http://anotherversionofthetruth.com/audio/ballgameOver.mp3 ) is one of the three (so far) mp3s linked to on the [[Another Version of the Truth (website)|Another Version of the Truth]] forums. It is about a man (presumed to be [[Angry_Sniper]]) who sets off bombs of Silver Nitrate in Wrigley Field, and shoots and kills someone.<br />
<br />
==Transcription==<br />
*Static, what sounds like someone turning on and adjusting a microphone.<br />
(If looked under a spectrograph, it is the American Flag. Possibly a twisted version of it.)<br />
<br />
Angry Sniper: Test, Test. In the old days if you shot a government spokesman at least you knew it would get on TV. There was more than one media outlet; like, they competed to cover news. *short, bitter laugh* Today, you have to start with something that the administration has to broadcast.<br />
<br />
*Footsteps, television turns on<br />
<br />
TV Reporter 1: … go to the top of the sixth. Now he’s trailing by a run. St. Louis: 3, Cubs: 2.<br />
<br />
Angry Sniper: Step one: Grab as much attention as you can for as cheap as you can.<br />
<br />
TV Reporter 1: … Felch misses up the fast ball.<br />
<br />
TV Reporter 2: … Did you see that commercial we did for the president? He had been thinkin' of me?<br />
<br />
TV Reporter 1: … I did. Christ… <br />
<br />
''[TV audio continues under Angry Sniper's speech]''<br />
<br />
Angry Sniper: I was gonna buy a little Helio something that I could remote control, but it was gonna cost me six grand *Chuckle*. So, I found a pilot. I offered him 500 bucks to fly a banner. We loaded one saying "Marry me, Irene." When he left I doubled back, I switched it out for one that said “THIS IS A BOMB FUCKHEADS, WAKE THE FUCK UP.”<br />
<br />
*A plane is heard flying overhead<br />
<br />
TV Reporter 1: … Some kind of small plane seems to be flying over the stadium. Towing a message… Maybe a message of love. That is no message of love, thats bad...<indistinct>no, don't point your cameras up there...<br />
<br />
Angry Sniper: K, I called the authorities 5 minutes ago and I told them the pilot was a civilian; if they shoot him down that'll be on them.<br />
<br />
TV Reporter 1: <under Angry Sniper> ...keep your cameras on the field...<br />
<br />
Angry Sniper: Step 2: Deliver the message. I got a job at the park as a beer guy… I needed the money and hey, free beer. Can't pass up anything free in this country. Free this. I poured beer out of six of the mini keg size and put a small explosive charge. I packed each keg with pamphlets saying "your government is poisoning you" and latex balloons full of silver nitrate. It’s easy to make and cheap as shit. Before the game I put the special kegs in trash-cans all around the upper level.<br />
<br />
*Explosions can be heard, screams of terror<br />
<br />
TV Reporter 1: … Oh god, go back. That's a bomb motherfucker. Oh god, it just went up in here! There's glass everywhere!<br />
<br />
Unknown Man 1: Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. No, no wait. Oh shit, her skin is turnin' shit brown.<br />
<br />
Angry Sniper: I rented an apartment on the other side of Waveland Avenue. Made it back in plenty of time to set up my bipod and scope.<br />
<br />
Unknown Man 2: Where you been asshole? Get on the fucking P.A. or something. Fucking calm 'em, ya dickhead!<br />
<br />
Angry Sniper: I used to be a sniper, 105th airborne crusaders, AMEN.<br />
<br />
On TV: Ladies and Gentleman, Wrigley Field has apparently been the victim of a terrorist attack. The important thing is for everyone that can hear my voice to remain calm!<br />
<br />
''(sound of the clanking and cocking of a gun)''<br />
<br />
Angry Sniper: Hollow points have stopping power in close, but they give you more air resistance at long range, less reliable. This range I use a light 50 with PMG steel jackets, pricey, but...sometimes the cost of liberty is 92 dollars a box.<br />
<br />
On TV(2): You, whoever you are you ragheaded asshole the cops are going to find you, and they are going to waste your skinny brown asses! You hear me motherfucker!?<br />
<br />
On TV: Listen, the important thing is that America will not give in to these cowardly actions of violence...<br />
<br />
''(sound of walking on wood)''<br />
<br />
Angry Sniper: Step three: punishment. These people need to know if they get on camera and they lie to America, they are going to pay a price.<br />
<br />
On TV(2): … When we find you guys, as god is my witness-<br />
<br />
*A vicious sniper shot rings out from the apartment<br />
<br />
On TV(2): … Oh Jesus… Christ… Someone shot him in the head...''[a bullet casing hits the ground]''... get us off the air.<br />
<br />
*The TV emergency system cuts on and then the TV is flipped off. Emergency vehicles are heard outside<br />
<br />
Angry Sniper: Bible thumpers in suits and thugs who raped and killed America; we're gonna sit there and watch them hump the corpse. A nation that sees them for what for what they really are is the only thing that these fuckers understand, force is the only fucking language they understand. It’s not about money, it’s not about money. It’s not about firepower. It’s about finding the will to act. A credit card and a hardware store can make you a hero. You can save America if you have the will.<br />
<br />
''[static containing morse code]''<br />
<br />
''[clip ends]''<br />
<br />
The end of the recording has another Morse Code message.<br><br />
[[Image:ballgameover_morse.jpg]]<br><br />
It has been decoded to be [[24.10.5]].<br />
[[Category:World of Year Zero]]</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:BallgameOver.mp3&diff=11453Talk:BallgameOver.mp32007-04-29T18:56:59Z<p>Electric: New page: When someone says "Her skin is turning shit brown!" Does this mean it's a dirty bomb? Maybe The Angry Sniper set of the other ones (Los Angeles, New Orlenes, Etc) --~~~~</p>
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<div>When someone says "Her skin is turning shit brown!" Does this mean it's a dirty bomb? Maybe The Angry Sniper set of the other ones (Los Angeles, New Orlenes, Etc) --[[User:Electric|Electric]] 11:56, 29 April 2007 (PDT)</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=BallgameOver.mp3&diff=11452BallgameOver.mp32007-04-29T18:53:43Z<p>Electric: /* Transcription */</p>
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<div>ballgameOver.mp3 ( http://anotherversionofthetruth.com/audio/ballgameOver.mp3 ) is one of the three (so far) mp3s linked to on the [[Another Version of the Truth (website)|Another Version of the Truth]] forums. It is about a man (presumed to be [[Angry_Sniper]]) who sets off bombs of Silver Nitrate in Wrigley Field, and shoots and kills someone.<br />
<br />
==Transcription==<br />
*Static, what sounds like someone turning on and adjusting a microphone.<br />
(If looked under a spectrograph, it is the American Flag. Possibly a twisted version of it.)<br />
<br />
Angry Sniper: Test, Test. In the old days if you shot a government spokesman at least you knew it would get on TV. There was more than one media outlet; like, they competed to cover news. *short, bitter laugh* Today, you have to start with something that the administration has to broadcast.<br />
<br />
*Footsteps, television turns on<br />
<br />
TV Reporter 1: … go to the top of the sixth. Now he’s trailing by a run. St. Louis: 3, Cubs: 2.<br />
<br />
Angry Sniper: Step one: Grab as much attention as you can for as cheap as you can.<br />
<br />
TV Reporter 1: … Felch misses up the fast ball.<br />
<br />
TV Reporter 2: … Did you see that commercial we did for the president? He had been thinkin' of me?<br />
<br />
TV Reporter 1: … I did. Christ… <br />
<br />
''[TV audio continues under Angry Sniper's speech]''<br />
<br />
Angry Sniper: I was gonna buy a little Helio something that I could remote control, but it was gonna cost me six grand *Chuckle*. So, I found a pilot. I offered him 500 bucks to fly a banner. We loaded one saying "Marry me, Irene." When he left I doubled back, I switched it out for one that said “THIS IS A BOMB FUCKHEADS, WAKE THE FUCK UP.”<br />
<br />
*A plane is heard flying overhead<br />
<br />
TV Reporter 1: … Some kind of small plane seems to be flying over the stadium. Towing a message… Maybe a message of love. That is no message of love, thats bad...<indistinct>no, don't point your cameras up there...<br />
<br />
Angry Sniper: K, I called the authorities 5 minutes ago and I told them the pilot was a civilian; if they shoot him down that'll be on them.<br />
<br />
TV Reporter 1: <under Angry Sniper> ...keep your cameras on the field...<br />
<br />
Angry Sniper: Step 2: Deliver the message. I got a job at the park as a beer guy… I needed the money and hey, free beer. Can't pass up anything free in this country. Free this. I poured beer out of six of the mini keg size and put a small explosive charge. I packed each keg with pamphlets saying "your government is poisoning you" and latex balloons full of silver nitrate. It’s easy to make and cheap as shit. Before the game I put the special kegs in trash-cans all around the upper level.<br />
<br />
*Explosions can be heard, screams of terror<br />
<br />
TV Reporter 1: … Oh god, go back. That's a bomb motherfucker. Oh god, it just went up in here! There's glass everywhere!<br />
<br />
Unknown Man 1: Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. No, no wait. Oh shit, her skin is turnin' shit brown.<br />
<br />
Angry Sniper: I rented an apartment on the other side of Waveland Avenue. Made it back in plenty of time to set up my bipod and scope.<br />
<br />
Unknown Man 2: Where you been asshole? Get on the fucking P.A. or something. Fucking calm 'em, ya dickhead!<br />
<br />
Angry Sniper: I used to be a sniper, 105th airborne crusaders, AMEN.<br />
<br />
On TV: Ladies and Gentleman, Wrigley Field has apparently been the victim of a terrorist attack. The important thing is for everyone that can hear my voice to remain calm!<br />
<br />
Angry Sniper: Hollow points have stopping power in close, but they give you more air resistance at long range, less reliable. This range I use a light 50 with PMG steel jackets, pricey, but...sometimes the cost of liberty is 92 dollars a box.<br />
<br />
On TV(2): You, whoever you are you ragheaded asshole the cops are going to find you, and they are going to waste your skinny brown asses! You hear me motherfucker!?<br />
<br />
On TV: Listen, the important thing is that America will not give in to these cowardly actions of violence...<br />
<br />
''(sound of the clanking and cocking of a gun)''<br />
<br />
Angry Sniper: Step three: punishment. These people need to know if they get on camera and they lie to America, they are going to pay a price.<br />
<br />
On TV(2): … When we find you guys, as god is my witness-<br />
<br />
*A vicious sniper shot rings out from the apartment<br />
<br />
On TV(2): … Oh Jesus… Christ… Someone shot him in the head...''[a bullet casing hits the ground]''... get us off the air.<br />
<br />
*The TV emergency system cuts on and then the TV is flipped off. Emergency vehicles are heard outside<br />
<br />
Angry Sniper: Bible thumpers in suits and thugs who raped and killed America; we're gonna sit there and watch them hump the corpse. A nation that sees them for what for what they really are is the only thing that these fuckers understand, force is the only fucking language they understand. It’s not about money, it’s not about money. It’s not about firepower. It’s about finding the will to act. A credit card and a hardware store can make you a hero. You can save America if you have the will.<br />
<br />
''[static containing morse code]''<br />
<br />
''[clip ends]''<br />
<br />
The end of the recording has another Morse Code message.<br><br />
[[Image:ballgameover_morse.jpg]]<br><br />
It has been decoded to be [[24.10.5]].<br />
[[Category:World of Year Zero]]</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Angry_Sniper&diff=11451Talk:Angry Sniper2007-04-29T18:48:22Z<p>Electric: Comparrison.</p>
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<div>i think we can say for certain that the angry sniper is running bethehammer.net and is also bethehammer in the forums on anotherversionofthetruth.com<br />
<br />
evidence:<br />
<br />
1) listen to the end of the ballGameOver.mp3 and you'll hear him say "a credit card and a hardware store can make you a hero". the same line of text appears at the end of the "efficiency" section on bethehammer.net<br />
<br />
2) the style of diction in ballGameOver.mp3 is the same as on bethehammer.net<br />
<br />
3) the sniper blew up wrigley field, bethehammer posted a picture of the ballgame<br />
<br />
4) bethehammer.net bio section says that the author was in the 105th. so does the sniper in ballGameOver.mp3<br />
<br />
so i vote to remove the wording that implies we don't know they are the same person for sure. i think the evidence is overwhelming.<br />
<br />
== Comparrison. ==<br />
<br />
Mmkay, as it says on the front, it could either be Corey Taylor or Trent Teznor. I decided to test the two by placing an NIN song on top of bgO, and then a Stone Sour song (basically because Corey doesn't scream as much there). Results? It definately isn't Trent. It definately sounds more like Corey, but I didn't know he and Trent even talked. I'd stick with Corey until somebody came in with equiptment instead of an iPod and a computer. --[[User:Electric|Electric]] 11:48, 29 April 2007 (PDT)</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Act_Patriotic&diff=11449Talk:Act Patriotic2007-04-29T18:32:58Z<p>Electric: /* bad request? */</p>
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<div>== Discovery? ==<br />
What are subnets and how does one go about scanning them? In other words, the discovery of this site is a complete mystery to me; I don't get it. Anyone care to expand a little bit? Thanks much. [[User:Tsguitar|Tsguitar]] 22:55, 23 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
:Subnets in this context refer to ranges of IP addresses that are the same in the first three bytes, and differ in the fourth byte. For example, 192.168.1.0 through 192.168.1.255 comprise one subnet. (Each component of an IP address is 1 byte and therefore can have a value from 0 to 255.) So, by "scanning a subnet," they mean they've taken existing ARG website IP addresses, and searched for active web servers on the other 255 IP addresses associated with that subnet. Note that webservers are very unlikely (though it's not impossible) to have an IP address ending in 0 or 255. (Networking fancypants will be quick to point out oversimplifications in my explanation, but that's the basic idea.) --[[User:Mr z|Mr z]] 05:31, 24 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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added links to clarify [[User:Ylbissop|ylbissop]] 01:03, 24 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
==bad request?==<br />
<br />
anyone else getting the message "Bad Request (Invalid Hostname)" when they click the link? perhaps the server's down, or maybe it's something else? not sure. [[User:Tocz|Tocz]] 21:49, 26 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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I am too. something weird is going on. Maybe we accidently found this page and it's really in one of the new garage band files? [[User:Blank|Blank]] 22:02, 26 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
Maybe it was the origanal thing for exhibit 24. It's not on there list too. [[User:Blank|Blank]] 03:42, 28 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
Perhaps we discovered it too early.<br />
<br />
:::Well, either way, it's been taken down. Should we remove it from the home page? --[[User:Electric|Electric]] 11:32, 29 April 2007 (PDT)</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Tony&diff=11436User talk:Tony2007-04-29T01:36:44Z<p>Electric: /* I Hurt Myself Today... */</p>
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<div>Archives: [[User_talk:Tony/Archive 1|1]]<br />
<br />
==Year Zero Website Template==<br />
EDIT: Ok, since the page is up at [[Category_talk:World_of_Year_Zero]] theres no need for this.<br />
[[User:BurnHavoc|BurnHavoc]] 22:16, 15 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
==What do you think about this?==<br />
<br />
http://www.bugmenot.com/view/ninwiki.com<br />
<br />
== hey again ==<br />
<br />
Okay good to hear.<br />
But if i have found something like all the Nine Inch Nails sites and codes and wierd things. where do i put them in? like the frontpage of NINWIKI....?<br />
Rico<br />
<br />
== Hey Tony ==<br />
<br />
It's... Tony. Go ahead and add me on the Hotline staff section.<br />
<br />
== thanks ==<br />
<br />
t/y tony I've noticed you too hehe. The first few times i had forgotten the tilde trick been a while since I helped out at a wiki. thanks again. [[User:Ylbissop|ylbissop]] 17:42, 22 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Michael Reznor ==<br />
<br />
I put in the [[Glossary]] this information:<br><br />
===Michael Reznor===<br />
*'''Michael J. Reznor:''' The father of [[Trent Reznor]]<br />
*'''Michael T. Reznor:''' See [[Trent Reznor]]<br />
<br />
[[User:Leo3375|Leo3375]] deleted the information, citing "''Removed due to personal information concerns''". And when I asked why, she further explained that when she was working on the bio for Trent and that you said that naming relatives of any band members could be seen as an invasion of privacy; which is understandable. Unfortunately, like I pointed out to [[User:Leo3375|Leo3775]], Trent's dad's name is not a secret. In fact, it is even listed in the article of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trent_Reznor Trent Reznor] on Wikipedia. It was further pointed out that if you do a Google search, the information comes right up also.<br />
<br />
But, I did not put the information up so I could share information that is available just about anywhere. I put it up because people may hear or see the name "Michael Reznor" and I wanted to let them know that it's not only Trent's name, but it was his father's name, too. I don't plan on adding Trent's mom, sister, grandma, grandpa, or any other family member's name. So, may I reinstate the information? [[User:Marcusaxavier77|M.A.X.]] 16:45, 28 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
: People aren't really interested in Trent's dad, and if you say "Michael Reznor", it's pretty much assumed that it's Trent. It's a good policy to be broad in our..well, in our policies. So when we say "no family", we mean "no family". His dad stays out of the wiki. --[[User:Tony|Tony]]<sup>[[User_talk:Tony|converse!]]</sup> 17:15, 28 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== I Hurt Myself Today... ==<br />
<br />
Of course I know "Hurt" was written by NIN. Johnny Cash did a cover of it before he died, and it was released on the CD "IV: The Man Comes Around". Lemme find a youtube video for JC's version...<br />
<br />
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO9dbmJ_2zU<br />
<br />
He did a fucking amazing cover...And I've yet to find a good tab that I can trans. to piano for the NIN version. R.I.P. Cash. --[[User:Electric|Electric]] 18:09, 28 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
:Thanks. What instruments do you play? --[[User:Electric|Electric]] 18:13, 28 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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::Hmm. I have a teacher for guitar, but I basically taught myself bass and piano. I learned drums in fourth grade. Ever tried to start up a band? It's hard as fuck. There are NO musicians in central NJ. And the ones that aren't in a band? The just want to do friggen Metallica covers. Annoying. --[[User:Electric|Electric]] 18:36, 28 April 2007 (PDT)</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Tony&diff=11433User talk:Tony2007-04-29T01:13:15Z<p>Electric: /* I Hurt Myself Today... */</p>
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<div>Archives: [[User_talk:Tony/Archive 1|1]]<br />
<br />
==Year Zero Website Template==<br />
EDIT: Ok, since the page is up at [[Category_talk:World_of_Year_Zero]] theres no need for this.<br />
[[User:BurnHavoc|BurnHavoc]] 22:16, 15 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
==What do you think about this?==<br />
<br />
http://www.bugmenot.com/view/ninwiki.com<br />
<br />
== hey again ==<br />
<br />
Okay good to hear.<br />
But if i have found something like all the Nine Inch Nails sites and codes and wierd things. where do i put them in? like the frontpage of NINWIKI....?<br />
Rico<br />
<br />
== Hey Tony ==<br />
<br />
It's... Tony. Go ahead and add me on the Hotline staff section.<br />
<br />
== thanks ==<br />
<br />
t/y tony I've noticed you too hehe. The first few times i had forgotten the tilde trick been a while since I helped out at a wiki. thanks again. [[User:Ylbissop|ylbissop]] 17:42, 22 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Michael Reznor ==<br />
<br />
I put in the [[Glossary]] this information:<br><br />
===Michael Reznor===<br />
*'''Michael J. Reznor:''' The father of [[Trent Reznor]]<br />
*'''Michael T. Reznor:''' See [[Trent Reznor]]<br />
<br />
[[User:Leo3375|Leo3375]] deleted the information, citing "''Removed due to personal information concerns''". And when I asked why, she further explained that when she was working on the bio for Trent and that you said that naming relatives of any band members could be seen as an invasion of privacy; which is understandable. Unfortunately, like I pointed out to [[User:Leo3375|Leo3775]], Trent's dad's name is not a secret. In fact, it is even listed in the article of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trent_Reznor Trent Reznor] on Wikipedia. It was further pointed out that if you do a Google search, the information comes right up also.<br />
<br />
But, I did not put the information up so I could share information that is available just about anywhere. I put it up because people may hear or see the name "Michael Reznor" and I wanted to let them know that it's not only Trent's name, but it was his father's name, too. I don't plan on adding Trent's mom, sister, grandma, grandpa, or any other family member's name. So, may I reinstate the information? [[User:Marcusaxavier77|M.A.X.]] 16:45, 28 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
: People aren't really interested in Trent's dad, and if you say "Michael Reznor", it's pretty much assumed that it's Trent. It's a good policy to be broad in our..well, in our policies. So when we say "no family", we mean "no family". His dad stays out of the wiki. --[[User:Tony|Tony]]<sup>[[User_talk:Tony|converse!]]</sup> 17:15, 28 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== I Hurt Myself Today... ==<br />
<br />
Of course I know "Hurt" was written by NIN. Johnny Cash did a cover of it before he died, and it was released on the CD "IV: The Man Comes Around". Lemme find a youtube video for JC's version...<br />
<br />
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO9dbmJ_2zU<br />
<br />
He did a fucking amazing cover...And I've yet to find a good tab that I can trans. to piano for the NIN version. R.I.P. Cash. --[[User:Electric|Electric]] 18:09, 28 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
:Thanks. What instruments do you play? --[[User:Electric|Electric]] 18:13, 28 April 2007 (PDT)</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Tony&diff=11431User talk:Tony2007-04-29T01:09:09Z<p>Electric: I Hurt Myself Today...</p>
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<div>Archives: [[User_talk:Tony/Archive 1|1]]<br />
<br />
==Year Zero Website Template==<br />
EDIT: Ok, since the page is up at [[Category_talk:World_of_Year_Zero]] theres no need for this.<br />
[[User:BurnHavoc|BurnHavoc]] 22:16, 15 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
==What do you think about this?==<br />
<br />
http://www.bugmenot.com/view/ninwiki.com<br />
<br />
== hey again ==<br />
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Okay good to hear.<br />
But if i have found something like all the Nine Inch Nails sites and codes and wierd things. where do i put them in? like the frontpage of NINWIKI....?<br />
Rico<br />
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== Hey Tony ==<br />
<br />
It's... Tony. Go ahead and add me on the Hotline staff section.<br />
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== thanks ==<br />
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t/y tony I've noticed you too hehe. The first few times i had forgotten the tilde trick been a while since I helped out at a wiki. thanks again. [[User:Ylbissop|ylbissop]] 17:42, 22 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Michael Reznor ==<br />
<br />
I put in the [[Glossary]] this information:<br><br />
===Michael Reznor===<br />
*'''Michael J. Reznor:''' The father of [[Trent Reznor]]<br />
*'''Michael T. Reznor:''' See [[Trent Reznor]]<br />
<br />
[[User:Leo3375|Leo3375]] deleted the information, citing "''Removed due to personal information concerns''". And when I asked why, she further explained that when she was working on the bio for Trent and that you said that naming relatives of any band members could be seen as an invasion of privacy; which is understandable. Unfortunately, like I pointed out to [[User:Leo3375|Leo3775]], Trent's dad's name is not a secret. In fact, it is even listed in the article of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trent_Reznor Trent Reznor] on Wikipedia. It was further pointed out that if you do a Google search, the information comes right up also.<br />
<br />
But, I did not put the information up so I could share information that is available just about anywhere. I put it up because people may hear or see the name "Michael Reznor" and I wanted to let them know that it's not only Trent's name, but it was his father's name, too. I don't plan on adding Trent's mom, sister, grandma, grandpa, or any other family member's name. So, may I reinstate the information? [[User:Marcusaxavier77|M.A.X.]] 16:45, 28 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
: People aren't really interested in Trent's dad, and if you say "Michael Reznor", it's pretty much assumed that it's Trent. It's a good policy to be broad in our..well, in our policies. So when we say "no family", we mean "no family". His dad stays out of the wiki. --[[User:Tony|Tony]]<sup>[[User_talk:Tony|converse!]]</sup> 17:15, 28 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== I Hurt Myself Today... ==<br />
<br />
Of course I know "Hurt" was written by NIN. Johnny Cash did a cover of it before he died, and it was released on the CD "IV: The Man Comes Around". Lemme find a youtube video for JC's version...<br />
<br />
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO9dbmJ_2zU<br />
<br />
He did a fucking amazing cover...And I've yet to find a good tab that I can trans. to piano for the NIN version. R.I.P. Cash. --[[User:Electric|Electric]] 18:09, 28 April 2007 (PDT)</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=User:Electric&diff=11428User:Electric2007-04-29T00:36:47Z<p>Electric: /* Please Excuse The Above... */</p>
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<div>eMERSED.<br />
<br />
<br />
IVE GOT MY FIST I GOT MY PLAN I GOT SURVIVALISM.<br />
<br />
<br />
BUT DOESNT IT MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER?<br />
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<br />
<br />
==Please Excuse The Above...==<br />
<br />
...My friend decided to mess with my page while he was at my house. He asked me not to delete it, as a sign of "good friendship" or some shit. Either way, let's introduce Electric.<br />
<br />
First off, my name is Eric. I'm a multi instrumentalist (I can play Guitar, Piano, Bass, and Drums quite fluently, except the last two, I'm still beginning on those). I've been following the Year Zero story for maybe two months, and I've been very deep in it, exploring every possiblity.<br />
<br />
I am loud-mouthed. I talk a lot. I have a booming laugh. My favorite band is Breaking Benjamin (Nine Inch Nails is basically 3rd). I the best I can play on guitar can play Stairway to Heaven by Led Zep , and best on piano is play Driven Under by Seether (it's very touching when you hear it like that), A Different Kind Of Pain by Cold, or Hurt by Johnny Cash. I can best play White Room by Cream on Drums, and several songs on Bass.<br />
<br />
Now, leave a comment. We could be friends. I'm very easy to get along with. And I'm desperate for comments, haha. I have several places where you can friend request me:<br />
<br />
I have a facebook (link coming soon)<br />
And I have a myspace (myspace.com/electric7)<br />
<br />
So enjoy yourself, and remember to have a plan. You never know when the Prescence or Capital G will show up.</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=User:Electric&diff=11427User:Electric2007-04-29T00:33:47Z<p>Electric: </p>
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<div>eMERSED.<br />
<br />
<br />
IVE GOT MY FIST I GOT MY PLAN I GOT SURVIVALISM.<br />
<br />
<br />
BUT DOESNT IT MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER?<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Please Excuse The Above...==<br />
<br />
...My friend decided to mess with my page while he was at my house. He asked me not to delete it, as a sign of "good friendship" or some shit. Either way, let's introduce Electric.<br />
<br />
First off, my name is Eric. I'm a multi instrumentalist (I can play Guitar, Piano, Bass, and Drums quite fluently, except the last two, I'm still beginning on those). I've been following the Year Zero story for maybe two months, and I've been very deep in it, exploring every possiblity.<br />
<br />
I am loud-mouthed. I talk a lot. I have a booming laugh. My favorite band is Breaking Benjamin (Nine Inch Nails is basically 3rd). I can play Stairway to Heaven by Led Zep on guitar, and I can play Driven Under by Seether on piano (it's very touching when you hear it like that). I can play White Room by Cream on Drums, and several songs on Bass.<br />
<br />
Now, leave a comment. We could be friends. I'm very easy to get along with. And I'm desperate for comments, haha. I have several places where you can friend request me:<br />
<br />
I have a facebook (link coming soon)<br />
And I have a myspace (myspace.com/electric7)<br />
<br />
So enjoy yourself, and remember to have a plan. You never know when the Prescence or Capital G will show up.</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Hour_of_Arrival&diff=11384Talk:Hour of Arrival2007-04-27T21:11:15Z<p>Electric: </p>
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<div>Hmm. There are a number of astricks scattered across the page. Anyone think that this has any relevence? And also, Aunt Chrissy's "Asshole Boyfriend" looks like a part of NIN. I just can't remember his name (John maybe?) And maybe this is a reference to the Survivalism video? --[[User:Electric|Electric]] 14:08, 27 April 2007 (PDT)</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Hour_of_Arrival&diff=11383Talk:Hour of Arrival2007-04-27T21:08:02Z<p>Electric: New page: Hmm. There are a number of astricks scattered across the page. Anyone think that this has any relevence? --~~~~</p>
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<div>Hmm. There are a number of astricks scattered across the page. Anyone think that this has any relevence? --[[User:Electric|Electric]] 14:08, 27 April 2007 (PDT)</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Hour_of_Arrival&diff=11382Hour of Arrival2007-04-27T21:07:04Z<p>Electric: /* -Numbers Found= */</p>
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<div>{{expand}}<br />
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http://www.hourofarrival.net<br />
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==Discovery==<br />
Coming soon.<br />
<br />
==Content==<br />
"Hour of Arrival" is a letter from a high-ranking government worker to his unborn child (Danny if it's a boy, Jane if it's a girl). He talks about his wife's sister, Chrissy and his own childhood. He also offers some advice to the child and what he would like to do together. Along with these writings are reports of [[The Presence]] being spotted in cities around the world, even Washington, DC. The letter is cut off at the end.<br />
<br />
==Numbers Found==<br />
The number 24.4.1 was found on this page.<br />
[[Category:World of Year Zero]]</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Hour_of_Arrival&diff=11381Hour of Arrival2007-04-27T21:06:29Z<p>Electric: </p>
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<div>{{expand}}<br />
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http://www.hourofarrival.net<br />
<br />
==Discovery==<br />
Coming soon.<br />
<br />
==Content==<br />
"Hour of Arrival" is a letter from a high-ranking government worker to his unborn child (Danny if it's a boy, Jane if it's a girl). He talks about his wife's sister, Chrissy and his own childhood. He also offers some advice to the child and what he would like to do together. Along with these writings are reports of [[The Presence]] being spotted in cities around the world, even Washington, DC. The letter is cut off at the end.<br />
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=-Numbers Found==<br />
The number 24.4.1 was found on this page.<br />
[[Category:World of Year Zero]]</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Red_Horse_Vector&diff=9181Talk:Red Horse Vector2007-04-08T02:35:12Z<p>Electric: </p>
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<div>is that his dog at the end of the video? and where does his jacket go?<br />
-tocz<br />
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Red Horse Vector...any reference to the red horse of the apocalypse?? -[[User:Velvolver|Velvolver]] 16:29, 7 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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:You mean like the four horses of the apocolipse? (Ignore my spelling...) Maybe. --[[User:Electric|Electric]] 19:35, 7 April 2007 (PDT)</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Grace_The_Teacher&diff=9076Talk:Grace The Teacher2007-04-07T16:14:00Z<p>Electric: Worth 999 Words.</p>
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<div>Where does it say anywhere in the pages that this journal chronicles Darren Kroupa? The only name I see that refers to the writer is Jeremiah Snow... his mother says "Jeremiah Snow, where did you get that [beer]?" I can't find anything that says Kroupa. [[User:Jgrizzy89|Jgrizzy89]] 15:43, 5 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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:Think I might have jumped the gun on that, I'll change it -[[User:Velvolver|Velvolver]] 15:47, 5 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Thanks to Deamos_ in the IRC room for figuring out the Morse code (I think it was him), and nunzilla for getting the text excerpt! -[[User:Velvolver|Velvolver]] 15:47, 5 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Also, didn't the name Jeremiah Snow show up somewhere before? I can't think of where though... It just sounds extremely familiar... [[User:Jgrizzy89|Jgrizzy89]] 15:49, 5 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Jeremiah is the 24th book of the Bible (remember when people thought the 24.x.x were Bible references?), and there's at least one verse, Jeremiah 18:14, about snow. ''Does the snow of Lebanon desert the rocky heights? Do the gushing waters dry up that flow fresh down the mountains?'' -[[User:J.theYellow|J.]] 22:35, 5 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
If there's a good forum for tracking and discussion, I'm happy to post there instead of here. ;-)<br />
<br />
I did time with The Beast, and this feels familiar with regards to that ARG. It feels like we're getting confirmation that:<br />
<br />
a) The numbers are a reference number system for the clues<br />
b) there's a connection between the number system and the bible passages after all<br />
c) WE are the Pilgrims. The Pilgrim Stream is the name for the series of clues.<br />
<br />
Pilgrims are seekers. They go on a journey, traditionally following some type of trail. Look at holy pilgrimages.<br />
<br />
BTW, I listened too AVotT repeatedly on my 1200W sound system, AND poked at it in Audacity, and I can't figure out where the heck the Morse code was found. :-P [[User:The Angelus|The Angelus]] 18:08, 6 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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<br />
== Feb 4th -> Feb 10th ==<br />
<br />
Notice how he says he's taking his GED on Feb 4th 0000. Yet Hannah dies on Feb 4th, and he takes his GED on Feb 10th. That wouldn't be such a big deal, except the distortion on the Another Version of the Truth forums shows a post at Feb 4th 0000 in the distortion, then at Feb 10th 0000 in the clickable page. Did something happen on Feb 4th or Feb 10th?<br />
<br />
-- good point, you notice how if you click on feb 10 and click previous, it doesn't go to the previous entry which is the 8th, it goes to the fifth of feb.<br />
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Feb 04: The nurse said that we couldn’t be back there and they hustled us out. I felt sick and I wanted to<br />
punch something but I didn’t want to upset mom so I walked down the hallway to the drinking<br />
fountain and took a big long drink of water.<br />
(And some woman says she sees the presence)<br />
<br />
Feb 05: I feel guilty because while we’ve been here we’ve had fast food and it tasted great. Even the water<br />
here tastes normal after well water.<br />
<br />
Between feb 04 and feb 10 he goes back on the water. I don't know, there's a missing link, maybe they're both the same day.<br />
<br />
== "Me, I'm Not" connection? ==<br />
<br />
After reading Grace the Teacher, it ocurred to me that it might be influenced by "Me, I'm Not." Particularly the bit about how he keeps stealing beer from the gas station and never gets caught, and how wracked he is by his new, exploding emotions. "I define myself by how well I hide." "If I knew back then what I know right now..."<br />
[[User:Saturnine_night|Saturnine Night]]<br />
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== Worth 999 Words. ==<br />
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Mmkay...in the diary, there are three pictures. Ones obviously the trailer home. The second is his [ex-]girlfriend Dina...and the third I'm going to take a shot and say Hannah?--[[User:Electric|Electric]] 09:14, 7 April 2007 (PDT)</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Darren_Kroupa&diff=9075Talk:Darren Kroupa2007-04-07T16:07:54Z<p>Electric: </p>
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<div>Hmm...Im noticing that it says...at the bottom..."It wasn't before his death before everyone knew who he really was." Who was he? I know he was a fan (R.I.P, by the way), but was he something more? --[[User:Electric|Electric]] 18:59, 6 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
:All we know is that he was in a photo posted on NIN.com. He got to fly out to LA to meet Trent and get an early listen to ''Year Zero'' through a charity that helps adults with terminal illnesses in the same manner that the Make A Wish Foundation helps terminally ill children.--[[User:Leo3375|Leo3375]] 19:24, 6 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
::Lucky bastard. But, rest his soul.--[[User:Electric|Electric]] 09:07, 7 April 2007 (PDT)</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Darren_Kroupa&diff=9074Talk:Darren Kroupa2007-04-07T16:07:26Z<p>Electric: </p>
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<div>Hmm...Im noticing that it says...at the bottom..."It wasn't before his death before everyone knew who he really was." Who was he? I know he was a fan (R.I.P, by the way), but was he something more? --[[User:Electric|Electric]] 18:59, 6 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
:All we know is that he was in a photo posted on NIN.com. He got to fly out to LA to meet Trent and get an early listen to ''Year Zero'' through a charity that helps adults with terminal illnesses in the same manner that the Make A Wish Foundation helps terminally ill children.--[[User:Leo3375|Leo3375]] 19:24, 6 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
::Lucky bastard. But, rest his soul.</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Darren_Kroupa&diff=9023Talk:Darren Kroupa2007-04-07T01:59:23Z<p>Electric: New page: Hmm...Im noticing that it says...at the bottom..."It wasn't before his death before everyone knew who he really was." Who was he? I know he was a fan (R.I.P, by the way), but was he someth...</p>
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<div>Hmm...Im noticing that it says...at the bottom..."It wasn't before his death before everyone knew who he really was." Who was he? I know he was a fan (R.I.P, by the way), but was he something more? --[[User:Electric|Electric]] 18:59, 6 April 2007 (PDT)</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Electric&diff=8193User talk:Electric2007-03-28T00:59:24Z<p>Electric: </p>
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<div>{{newsletter}}</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Trent_Reznor&diff=8192Talk:Trent Reznor2007-03-28T00:58:04Z<p>Electric: East Coast Taurus.</p>
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<div>==Content==<br />
This article needs to remain non-stalker-ish. Here's some guidelines.<br />
===Okay===<br />
*He was born in Mercer.<br />
*His birthday is x/x/x<br />
*He plays the piano, synth, guitar, bass...<br />
===Not Okay===<br />
*His telephone number is 555-555-5555<br />
*His address is at 1234 Santa Monica Blvd.<br />
*He likes peanut butter cups<br />
*His parents names are John and Jane<br />
*His grandparents names are...<br />
*(insert anything that has to do with family here)<br />
So, in other words, try not to be a stalker, and try not to insert useless info. --[[User:Tony|Tony]] 17:10, 11 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
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But how else will people know what kind of candy to throw on stage??<br />
<br />
== East Coast Taurus. ==<br />
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Huh, that's pretty cool. Trent has a birthday twelve days after mine, and he's from a place that's about an hour from my house. Interesting. --[[User:Electric|Electric]] 17:58, 27 March 2007 (PDT)</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Open_Source_Resistance&diff=8171Open Source Resistance2007-03-27T20:20:04Z<p>Electric: /* Email */</p>
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<div>{{expand}}<br />
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http://www.opensourceresistance.net/<br />
<br />
== Discovery ==<br />
<br />
This website was found through [[The Price Of Treason]] where this site is credited to "Neil Czerno".<br />
<br />
== Content ==<br />
<br />
Unlike the rest of the Year Zero ARG sites, ''Open Source Resistance'' is set in -15, which, since Year Zero is 2022, is this year (2007). The appearance of the site reflects this, particularly since it doesn't carry the "corrupted" appearance of the sites set in 2022/0000.<br />
<br />
The site encourages you to submit subversive work with the suggestion that it will be published somehow. The work should follow the guidelines of anything which is intended to raise awareness of the issues which could lead to Year Zero.<br />
<br />
At the top of the page is the number sequence "24.5.2".<br />
<br />
At the bottom of the page is a link to subscribe to a mailing list. You can join the list by sending an email to list@opensourceresistance.net with the subject line of 'subscribe'.<br />
<br />
== Email ==<br />
<br />
If you subscribe to the email address, you'll get the following response:<br />
<br />
''Thanks. You are now on the Open Source Resistance email list. I don’t sell, I don’t spam. If you want to get off, write back with "Unsubscribe" in the subject at any time.''<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
''Welcome. There are more of us than there are of Them. Let’s make that count for something.''<br />
<br />
If you reply to that, you'll get the same thing over again.</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Open_Source_Resistance&diff=8170Open Source Resistance2007-03-27T20:19:38Z<p>Electric: </p>
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<div>{{expand}}<br />
<br />
http://www.opensourceresistance.net/<br />
<br />
== Discovery ==<br />
<br />
This website was found through [[The Price Of Treason]] where this site is credited to "Neil Czerno".<br />
<br />
== Content ==<br />
<br />
Unlike the rest of the Year Zero ARG sites, ''Open Source Resistance'' is set in -15, which, since Year Zero is 2022, is this year (2007). The appearance of the site reflects this, particularly since it doesn't carry the "corrupted" appearance of the sites set in 2022/0000.<br />
<br />
The site encourages you to submit subversive work with the suggestion that it will be published somehow. The work should follow the guidelines of anything which is intended to raise awareness of the issues which could lead to Year Zero.<br />
<br />
At the top of the page is the number sequence "24.5.2".<br />
<br />
At the bottom of the page is a link to subscribe to a mailing list. You can join the list by sending an email to list@opensourceresistance.net with the subject line of 'subscribe'.<br />
<br />
== Email ==<br />
<br />
If you subscribe to the email address, you'll get the following response:<br />
<br />
''Thanks. You are now on the Open Source Resistance email list. I don’t sell, I don’t spam. If you want to get off, write back with "Unsubscribe" in the subject at any time.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Welcome. There are more of us than there are of Them. Let’s make that count for something.''<br />
<br />
If you reply to that, you'll get the same thing over again.</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:12163331810&diff=8168Talk:121633318102007-03-27T20:13:07Z<p>Electric: /* All Circuits' Busy? */</p>
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<div>== Tie in with Poe's Masque of the Red Death? ==<br />
<br />
<br />
The sickess described by Mia is quite similar to the one portrayed by Edgar Allan Poe in "The Mask of the Red Death". Blood sweating included.<br />
In that short tale, a prince locked himself in a castle with 1,000 friends to avoid that plague but, eventually, the Red Death found its way in during a costume party. It is quite "similar" to the "terrorist attack": people locked in a party, who cannot escape from the Red Death. The difference is, this time, it was the cops (and not themselves) who locked them in.<br />
<br />
: That story was symbolic for the seperation of nobles from commoners though they were the same. The people were nobles in the story, while the people inside were just regular people. --[[User:Velvolver|Velvolver]] 11:24, 4 March 2007 (PST)<br />
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::I wouldn't go that far with the "nobles/commoners" story. This DOES bear a striking resembelence to the mask of red death.<br />
::'''Some differences...'''<br />
::The prince (Masque of Red Death Story) died of fright, not by a knife.<br />
:: The people weren't locked in a closet, just an abbey. They were (Masque), however, in open rooms.<br />
<br />
::'''Some Similarites...'''<br />
::The Red Death DID have a knife (if memory serves).<br />
::The Red Death WAS in red (just like our murderer).<br />
::People were sweating blood (it was one of the symptoms of the plauge).<br />
<br />
::If I get more info, I'll come back later.<br />
<br />
::--[[User:Electric|Electric]] 10:45, 24 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== All Circuits' Busy? ==<br />
<br />
<br />
Whenever I call this number now it comes up with a message saying all circuits are busy and then it gives a string of numbers... 8?133-2 is what I hear... Does this mean anything? I've tried it from numerous phones and have also had a couple other people try it from their phones... Do you think it's a clue? I'm not nearly as big of a mythbuster as others out there, so I'm going to tag this page (as well as the other phone number page because of the same message) to see if anyone out there can figure it out... Thanks!!! And goodluck!! [[User:Jgrizzy89|Jgrizzy89]] 19:20, 16 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
: Sounds like a standard circuit overload message to me, either someone did their homework or we're calling the number too much! --[[User:Killjoy|killjoy]] 13:32, 19 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
:: No one's done their homework. I think it's if you enter a wrong fax number, the next time you call, the circuts will be busy. Just a theory, though. --[[User:Electric|Electric]] 13:13, 27 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Voicemail System ==<br />
<br />
<br />
now that this leads to a voicemail system, has anyone tried unique number sets. usually the numbers for voicemail systems are 1 to 3 digits, some can be 6 (for numerical only) if there's a name search tool, has anyone tried hunting for the agent's names (such as Sikes, etc) in there? (I haven't had a chance to call it yet.)<br />
<br />
Last but not least, has anyone tried to get the system to identify itself (what system it is) if so, i can get the core/default codes that make these machines start listing what actually exists. --[[User:Killjoy|killjoy]] 13:32, 19 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
:I just did something really weird with this number... now, I know you told us to input 385# but, me being slightly dyslexic (or just plain stupid) I put in 358# and it said something like, "You have made an invalid selection or have taken to much time... Please leave your message after the tone and your call will be returned as soon as possible" and it freaking beeped! I left a message, just in time too because after about 25 seconds it cuts you off and asks if you want to review the message, rerecord, or send... I chose send, as I didn't offer any valuable information, but it was WEIRD... Any explanations out there? : ) [[User:Jgrizzy89|Jgrizzy89]] 21:23, 19 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
::I also just entered 666# and it said the fax number I entered is invalid then makes a static noise and goes out... Must mean that there is a 'correct' fax number, although I don't know what good it would do... [[User:Jgrizzy89|Jgrizzy89]] 21:54, 19 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
::: highly customizable voicemail system, like the lucent/nortel systems are. but at least we know everything is 3 digit based on the way they set it up... anyone with a ton of free time could run the gamut of the 999 choices. (have you tried a 4 or more digit number just to see what it does, by chance?) i'll see if i can find any random 3 digit numbers on any of the sites that might be important to us! --[[User:Killjoy|killjoy]] 23:53, 19 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
:::: I tried a few different things with the number last night, about all I managed to achieve was pissing it off I think. (tried a few numbers, like spelling out the first three letters of agent's names, star functions, single digit functions, etc. It just kicked to the leave a message option constantly, but it only left room for about a 3 second message!) Maybe they just used a voicemail system like this for the purpose of getting that US Wiretap soundbyte in to place... --[[User:Killjoy|killjoy]] 08:29, 20 March 2007 (PDT)</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:12163331810&diff=7975Talk:121633318102007-03-24T17:45:16Z<p>Electric: /* Tie in with Poe's Masque of the Red Death? */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Tie in with Poe's Masque of the Red Death? ==<br />
<br />
<br />
The sickess described by Mia is quite similar to the one portrayed by Edgar Allan Poe in "The Mask of the Red Death". Blood sweating included.<br />
In that short tale, a prince locked himself in a castle with 1,000 friends to avoid that plague but, eventually, the Red Death found its way in during a costume party. It is quite "similar" to the "terrorist attack": people locked in a party, who cannot escape from the Red Death. The difference is, this time, it was the cops (and not themselves) who locked them in.<br />
<br />
: That story was symbolic for the seperation of nobles from commoners though they were the same. The people were nobles in the story, while the people inside were just regular people. --[[User:Velvolver|Velvolver]] 11:24, 4 March 2007 (PST)<br />
<br />
::I wouldn't go that far with the "nobles/commoners" story. This DOES bear a striking resembelence to the mask of red death.<br />
::'''Some differences...'''<br />
::The prince (Masque of Red Death Story) died of fright, not by a knife.<br />
:: The people weren't locked in a closet, just an abbey. They were (Masque), however, in open rooms.<br />
<br />
::'''Some Similarites...'''<br />
::The Red Death DID have a knife (if memory serves).<br />
::The Red Death WAS in red (just like our murderer).<br />
::People were sweating blood (it was one of the symptoms of the plauge).<br />
<br />
::If I get more info, I'll come back later.<br />
<br />
::--[[User:Electric|Electric]] 10:45, 24 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== All Circuits' Busy? ==<br />
<br />
<br />
Whenever I call this number now it comes up with a message saying all circuits are busy and then it gives a string of numbers... 8?133-2 is what I hear... Does this mean anything? I've tried it from numerous phones and have also had a couple other people try it from their phones... Do you think it's a clue? I'm not nearly as big of a mythbuster as others out there, so I'm going to tag this page (as well as the other phone number page because of the same message) to see if anyone out there can figure it out... Thanks!!! And goodluck!! [[User:Jgrizzy89|Jgrizzy89]] 19:20, 16 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
: Sounds like a standard circuit overload message to me, either someone did their homework or we're calling the number too much! --[[User:Killjoy|killjoy]] 13:32, 19 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Voicemail System ==<br />
<br />
<br />
now that this leads to a voicemail system, has anyone tried unique number sets. usually the numbers for voicemail systems are 1 to 3 digits, some can be 6 (for numerical only) if there's a name search tool, has anyone tried hunting for the agent's names (such as Sikes, etc) in there? (I haven't had a chance to call it yet.)<br />
<br />
Last but not least, has anyone tried to get the system to identify itself (what system it is) if so, i can get the core/default codes that make these machines start listing what actually exists. --[[User:Killjoy|killjoy]] 13:32, 19 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
:I just did something really weird with this number... now, I know you told us to input 385# but, me being slightly dyslexic (or just plain stupid) I put in 358# and it said something like, "You have made an invalid selection or have taken to much time... Please leave your message after the tone and your call will be returned as soon as possible" and it freaking beeped! I left a message, just in time too because after about 25 seconds it cuts you off and asks if you want to review the message, rerecord, or send... I chose send, as I didn't offer any valuable information, but it was WEIRD... Any explanations out there? : ) [[User:Jgrizzy89|Jgrizzy89]] 21:23, 19 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
::I also just entered 666# and it said the fax number I entered is invalid then makes a static noise and goes out... Must mean that there is a 'correct' fax number, although I don't know what good it would do... [[User:Jgrizzy89|Jgrizzy89]] 21:54, 19 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
::: highly customizable voicemail system, like the lucent/nortel systems are. but at least we know everything is 3 digit based on the way they set it up... anyone with a ton of free time could run the gamut of the 999 choices. (have you tried a 4 or more digit number just to see what it does, by chance?) i'll see if i can find any random 3 digit numbers on any of the sites that might be important to us! --[[User:Killjoy|killjoy]] 23:53, 19 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
:::: I tried a few different things with the number last night, about all I managed to achieve was pissing it off I think. (tried a few numbers, like spelling out the first three letters of agent's names, star functions, single digit functions, etc. It just kicked to the leave a message option constantly, but it only left room for about a 3 second message!) Maybe they just used a voicemail system like this for the purpose of getting that US Wiretap soundbyte in to place... --[[User:Killjoy|killjoy]] 08:29, 20 March 2007 (PDT)</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:12163331810&diff=7974Talk:121633318102007-03-24T17:43:37Z<p>Electric: /* Tie in with Poe's Masque of the Red Death? */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Tie in with Poe's Masque of the Red Death? ==<br />
<br />
<br />
The sickess described by Mia is quite similar to the one portrayed by Edgar Allan Poe in "The Mask of the Red Death". Blood sweating included.<br />
In that short tale, a prince locked himself in a castle with 1,000 friends to avoid that plague but, eventually, the Red Death found its way in during a costume party. It is quite "similar" to the "terrorist attack": people locked in a party, who cannot escape from the Red Death. The difference is, this time, it was the cops (and not themselves) who locked them in.<br />
<br />
: That story was symbolic for the seperation of nobles from commoners though they were the same. The people were nobles in the story, while the people inside were just regular people. --[[User:Velvolver|Velvolver]] 11:24, 4 March 2007 (PST)<br />
<br />
::I wouldn't go that far with the "nobles/commoners" story. This DOES bear a striking resembelence to the mask of red death.<br />
::'''Some differences...'''<br />
::The prince (Masque of Red Death Story) died of fright, not by a knife.<br />
:: The people weren't locked in a closet, just an abbey. They were (Masque), however, in open rooms.<br />
<br />
::'''Some Simelatries...'''<br />
::The Red Death DID have a knife (if memory serves).<br />
::The Red Death WAS in red (just like our murderer).<br />
<br />
::If I get more info, I'll come back later.<br />
<br />
== All Circuits' Busy? ==<br />
<br />
<br />
Whenever I call this number now it comes up with a message saying all circuits are busy and then it gives a string of numbers... 8?133-2 is what I hear... Does this mean anything? I've tried it from numerous phones and have also had a couple other people try it from their phones... Do you think it's a clue? I'm not nearly as big of a mythbuster as others out there, so I'm going to tag this page (as well as the other phone number page because of the same message) to see if anyone out there can figure it out... Thanks!!! And goodluck!! [[User:Jgrizzy89|Jgrizzy89]] 19:20, 16 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
: Sounds like a standard circuit overload message to me, either someone did their homework or we're calling the number too much! --[[User:Killjoy|killjoy]] 13:32, 19 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Voicemail System ==<br />
<br />
<br />
now that this leads to a voicemail system, has anyone tried unique number sets. usually the numbers for voicemail systems are 1 to 3 digits, some can be 6 (for numerical only) if there's a name search tool, has anyone tried hunting for the agent's names (such as Sikes, etc) in there? (I haven't had a chance to call it yet.)<br />
<br />
Last but not least, has anyone tried to get the system to identify itself (what system it is) if so, i can get the core/default codes that make these machines start listing what actually exists. --[[User:Killjoy|killjoy]] 13:32, 19 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
:I just did something really weird with this number... now, I know you told us to input 385# but, me being slightly dyslexic (or just plain stupid) I put in 358# and it said something like, "You have made an invalid selection or have taken to much time... Please leave your message after the tone and your call will be returned as soon as possible" and it freaking beeped! I left a message, just in time too because after about 25 seconds it cuts you off and asks if you want to review the message, rerecord, or send... I chose send, as I didn't offer any valuable information, but it was WEIRD... Any explanations out there? : ) [[User:Jgrizzy89|Jgrizzy89]] 21:23, 19 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
::I also just entered 666# and it said the fax number I entered is invalid then makes a static noise and goes out... Must mean that there is a 'correct' fax number, although I don't know what good it would do... [[User:Jgrizzy89|Jgrizzy89]] 21:54, 19 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
::: highly customizable voicemail system, like the lucent/nortel systems are. but at least we know everything is 3 digit based on the way they set it up... anyone with a ton of free time could run the gamut of the 999 choices. (have you tried a 4 or more digit number just to see what it does, by chance?) i'll see if i can find any random 3 digit numbers on any of the sites that might be important to us! --[[User:Killjoy|killjoy]] 23:53, 19 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
:::: I tried a few different things with the number last night, about all I managed to achieve was pissing it off I think. (tried a few numbers, like spelling out the first three letters of agent's names, star functions, single digit functions, etc. It just kicked to the leave a message option constantly, but it only left room for about a 3 second message!) Maybe they just used a voicemail system like this for the purpose of getting that US Wiretap soundbyte in to place... --[[User:Killjoy|killjoy]] 08:29, 20 March 2007 (PDT)</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:The_Presence&diff=7973Talk:The Presence2007-03-24T17:25:49Z<p>Electric: /* Delete What? (Theory) */</p>
<hr />
<div>Another pointless theory :- The photographs of the Presence, excluding the "fake photograph", appear to be right handed. So does the spectograph image found with My Violent Heart. Could this imply that the presence is essentially the right hand of God? It was said somewhere (not on the year zero related websites) that with his left hand God is said to care for and protect life on earth, where as with the right hand righteous relationships with God are restored. So is God flexing his authority in the form of the presence as an attempt to regain balance in the world? A couple of things that my disprove this idea is the fact there is no obvious thumb on the presence, and that the scribble of the presence in the consolidated mail seems to be left handed...<br />
<br />
--[[User:Quentin|Quentin]] 20:05, 21 February 2007 (PST)<br />
<br />
All the times I've ever heard of God doing something of a supportive nature it was with His right hand, and opposite with His left hand.--[[User:Velvolver|Velvolver]] 11:16, 4 March 2007 (PST)<br />
<br />
The Presence on the album cover looks like a left-hand to me. --[[User:Mr z|Mr z]] 12:26, 4 March 2007 (PST)<br />
<br />
All things considered, I doubt God has anything to do with it. It will most likely be left up to interpretation, and we will probably never know what it is cannonically. --[[User:Thesmokingman|Thesmokingman]] 15:21, 4 March 2007 (PST)<br />
:Regardless of if it is or is not related to God, it is hard to ignore the many biblical referances, specifically to the Book of Revelation. If nothing else, Year Zero appears to be at least partially inspired by the vision of the end of the world presented in the Book of Revelation.<br />
<br />
According to the new judson Ogram site, the presence is an alien lifeform (not space aliens, but most likely an earth spirit or something)...and according to the old judson ogram site (John of Boston's) it's religious phenomenon.<br />
<br />
Furthermore, it should be noted that people who discuss the presence publically are arrested and sent to the funny farm by Da Man.--[[User:Velvolver|Velvolver]] 13:49, 15 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Delete What? (Theory) ==<br />
<br />
Excuse me...If you check out the YEAR ZERO promo on yearzero.nin.com, the one where it's taking a video of the country side. Their is a very brief, split second (and i mean split), where a strange noise is heard and blue rushes across the screen. i pause the video, and scrolled back. on the first line it says...<br />
<br />
''I'M TRYING''<br />
<br />
on the second, it says...<br />
<br />
''TO DELETE''<br />
<br />
any ideas, views?<br />
<br />
--[[User:Electric|Electric]] 14:04, 23 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
: It seems other people read it as I AM TRYING TO BELIEVE. [[User:Pomte|Pomte]] 18:29, 23 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
:: Well, it could be either one. I AM TRYING TO DELETE didn't get any results on the lyric site, but I AM TRYING TO BELIEVE is a Blues Brother's lyric. Or it could be that website [http://www.iamtryingtobelieve.com I AM TRYING TO BELIEVE] --[[User:Electric|Electric]] 10:23, 24 March 2007 (PDT)</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:The_Presence&diff=7972Talk:The Presence2007-03-24T17:23:11Z<p>Electric: /* Delete What? (Theory) */</p>
<hr />
<div>Another pointless theory :- The photographs of the Presence, excluding the "fake photograph", appear to be right handed. So does the spectograph image found with My Violent Heart. Could this imply that the presence is essentially the right hand of God? It was said somewhere (not on the year zero related websites) that with his left hand God is said to care for and protect life on earth, where as with the right hand righteous relationships with God are restored. So is God flexing his authority in the form of the presence as an attempt to regain balance in the world? A couple of things that my disprove this idea is the fact there is no obvious thumb on the presence, and that the scribble of the presence in the consolidated mail seems to be left handed...<br />
<br />
--[[User:Quentin|Quentin]] 20:05, 21 February 2007 (PST)<br />
<br />
All the times I've ever heard of God doing something of a supportive nature it was with His right hand, and opposite with His left hand.--[[User:Velvolver|Velvolver]] 11:16, 4 March 2007 (PST)<br />
<br />
The Presence on the album cover looks like a left-hand to me. --[[User:Mr z|Mr z]] 12:26, 4 March 2007 (PST)<br />
<br />
All things considered, I doubt God has anything to do with it. It will most likely be left up to interpretation, and we will probably never know what it is cannonically. --[[User:Thesmokingman|Thesmokingman]] 15:21, 4 March 2007 (PST)<br />
:Regardless of if it is or is not related to God, it is hard to ignore the many biblical referances, specifically to the Book of Revelation. If nothing else, Year Zero appears to be at least partially inspired by the vision of the end of the world presented in the Book of Revelation.<br />
<br />
According to the new judson Ogram site, the presence is an alien lifeform (not space aliens, but most likely an earth spirit or something)...and according to the old judson ogram site (John of Boston's) it's religious phenomenon.<br />
<br />
Furthermore, it should be noted that people who discuss the presence publically are arrested and sent to the funny farm by Da Man.--[[User:Velvolver|Velvolver]] 13:49, 15 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Delete What? (Theory) ==<br />
<br />
Excuse me...If you check out the YEAR ZERO promo on yearzero.nin.com, the one where it's taking a video of the country side. Their is a very brief, split second (and i mean split), where a strange noise is heard and blue rushes across the screen. i pause the video, and scrolled back. on the first line it says...<br />
<br />
''I'M TRYING''<br />
<br />
on the second, it says...<br />
<br />
''TO DELETE''<br />
<br />
any ideas, views?<br />
<br />
--[[User:Electric|Electric]] 14:04, 23 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
: It seems other people read it as I AM TRYING TO BELIEVE. [[User:Pomte|Pomte]] 18:29, 23 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
:: Well, it could be either one. I AM TRYING TO DELETE didn't get any results on the lyric site, but I AM TRYING TO BELIEVE is a Blues Brother's lyric. --[[User:Electric|Electric]] 10:23, 24 March 2007 (PDT)</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=User:Electric&diff=7969User:Electric2007-03-24T15:07:49Z<p>Electric: </p>
<hr />
<div>eMERSED.<br />
<br />
<br />
IVE GOT MY FIST I GOT MY PLAN I GOT SURVIVALISM.<br />
<br />
<br />
BUT DOESNT IT MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER?</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Consolidated_Mail_Systems&diff=7873Talk:Consolidated Mail Systems2007-03-23T21:24:07Z<p>Electric: I AM JESUS</p>
<hr />
<div>== I AM JESUS ==<br />
<br />
On the margin of the document of OPAL, there is a picture of Jesus, with a man pointing a gun. Jesus is waving his arms, saying "Wait, I'm Jesus!" another line connects another thing "(unknown scratches) Jesus!" the man states "(untellagible) Cop!"<br />
<br />
does this have any relevence?<br />
<br />
--[[User:Electric|Electric]] 14:24, 23 March 2007 (PDT)</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Secure_Broadcast_Informatics&diff=7871Talk:Secure Broadcast Informatics2007-03-23T21:20:22Z<p>Electric: When They Came For Me.</p>
<hr />
<div>Can anyone figure out the text in the background? I have seen it attributed to Milton's Areopagitica but I searched it with no luck (the words all are there, but very far apart in the real text). <br />
<br />
[[User: Crieth|Crieth]]<br />
<br />
a theory I wanted to note was about the phrase "Carolina's in the tarpit." Perhaps they mean she has succeeded in time travel (like Velvolver speculated) and has gone back in time to send banned books and songs... to the others? I took it as they were going back in time, retrieving files that were (in year 0000) gone (banned), and sending them forward in time, but perhaps I'm wrong. I was just thinking about it, since tarpits are known for their ability to preserve animals/dinosaurs that fell into them.<br />
<br />
Also, the link is still working for me. Perhaps you didn't put the pieces close enough together? I'm not sure.<br />
<br />
[[User:Tocz|Tocz]] 14:18, 1 March 2007 (PST)<br />
<br> <br> <br />
From my understanding, Carolina remained until the end in SBI and didn’t go anywhere.<br><br />
She just sent information back to our time, which explains the distorted layout of the<br><br />
pages and why there are fragments of the banned books.<br />
<br />
<i>JORDAN: Wayne & Carolina @ SBI. Carolina's in the tarpit. Frank is relaying.<br> <br />
I'm @ McGill. I've got a class writing an exam--may have to jump out. </i><br />
<br />
I assume the tarpit is either network related [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarpit_%28networking%29]<br><br />
or it’s the room/place within the SBI where Carolina is operating<br />
<br />
<i>FRANCISCO: channel snapped. I think C's just waiting for them to break through the doors.</i><br />
<br />
--[[User:Wolf|Wolf]] 05:42, 2 March 2007 (PST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
Theres some kinda IRC chat window that comes up im going to transcribe it when ive taken screen shots of it all (someone beat me to it) ----[[User:Adversegecko|Adversegecko]]<br />
<br />
Password: matt26:45-46<br />
Leads to ---> http://www.solutionsbackwardsinitiative.net/pilgrims/<br />
Number on the page: 24.19.2 --[[User:Wolf|Wolf]] 04:42, 28 February 2007 (PST)<br />
<br />
:Am I the only one who can't get to the Solutions Backward Initiative page anymore? When I click on the remnants of the "submit" button at Secure Broadcast Informatics, nothing happens. The link worked for me once last night and now it doesn't. I've tried this on 2 other computers (one a Mac and one a PC) using 2 different browsers: nothing happens. Is the link working for everyone else? --[[User:Tsguitar|Tsguitar]] 07:51, 1 March 2007 (PST)<br />
<br />
also, the bible passage refers to what Caroline keeps repeating...<br />
<br />
[http://bible.cc/matthew/26-45.htm http://bible.cc/matthew/26-45.htm]<br />
<br />
[[User:Travlr23|Travlr23]] 12:11, 28 February 2007 (PST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
The diagrams on the page resemble [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feynman_diagrams Feynman Diagrams] and are undoubtedly related to whatever research they are doing. If it is supposed to involve time travel then they could be a Feynman-like diagram used to describe the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_timelike_curve closed timelike loops] in their research.<br />
[[User:Ledgekindred|Ledgekindred]] 14:43, 28 February 2007 (PST)<br />
<br />
== http://www.solutionsbackwardsinitiative.net/pilgrims/ ==<br />
<br />
I noticed the "Shared Images" at the top<br />
there's 4 to choose from. but I couldn't seem to find anything changing when I click on any of them...<br />
SO.. I right clicked on the chat box. and "zoomed in" the box moved and I could see different diagrams .and the "internet relay chat" keeps going for a very long time.<br />
<br />
Can someone create a page for Solutions Backward Initiative? We should separate information about the two different sites. --[[User:Tsguitar|Tsguitar]] 18:01, 28 February 2007 (PST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
In IRC chats I was having last night with other ARGers, we theorized that perhaps the SBI succeded in their attempts at time travel and are sending these pages back to present day (us to be more specific). And perhaps the Presence is a space time rift. --[[User:Velvolver|Velvolver]] 06:14, 1 March 2007 (PST)<br />
<br />
== Fermi ==<br />
<br />
Just a thought, in the transcript when Alicia is asked if shes having a 'bad time at Fermi' it could be referring to Fermilab, a lab which works in the areas of 'particle acceleration, and the science of matter, space and time' I think this further backs up the whole time travel theory<br />
<br />
-----<br />
anyone notice the vague resemblance to the NIN logo in the pic on this page<br />
http://www.solutionsbackwardsinitiative.net/pilgrims/sympathetic.htm<br />
<br />
here is a direct link to the image only<br />
http://www.solutionsbackwardsinitiative.net/pilgrims/images/diagram.jpg<br />
<br />
The N's in the boxes? Maybe?<br />
<br />
*I think it's just a happy coincidence. Take a look at the diagram [http://www.electrodynamics-of-special-relativity.com/Aspect-s-Experiment on this page.] The boxes w/ a slash are polarizers. SBI utilizes quantum cryptography, and most of these diagrams have to do with quantum mechanics, including the optics of generating entangled photons. --[[User:Mr z|Mr z]] 13:12, 7 March 2007 (PST)<br />
<br />
<br />
== More on the page ==<br />
<br />
There's actually more on the page than just the think to drag to help you log in... There are other options to the left of the page that include information about some people, some mentioned being Darren Kroupa, who is helping with the production of the album, as is seen here: http://www.nin.com/current/photos/1_26_07.jpg <br />
<br />
Anyways~ they say that he was arrested by a guy named Marty Chadwick (who I couldn't find any information on, although there is a Chadwick Martin technology company). And that he was arrested... blah blah blah... here's the transcript: (I think the only reason I could access this information is because when I loaded the page, none of the log in box fragments loaded...)<br />
<br />
"SBI Lead Engineer Marty Chadwick was awarded a framed Certificate of Citizenship for<br />
providing information leading to the capture of notorious underground figure Darren Kroupa.<br />
Chadwick, who recognized Kroupa from his nightly perusing of the 1000 Most Wanted List,<br />
spotted the dissident at a local laundromat and stayed on the scene until police arrived. US<br />
Bureau of Morality Deputy Chief Connie West called the collar, “a major blow for America.”<br />
Kroupa, who rose from the music subculture to become a leading figure in the East Coast<br />
dissident scene, had been wanted on multiple charges stemming from an “underground<br />
concert series” as well as numerous other illegal activities."<br />
<br />
There's much more on the page, but I just wanted to spark an interest in it and see if any one else knew about this or anything surrounding it... [[User:Jgrizzy89|Jgrizzy89]] 13:24, 7 March 2007 (PST)<br />
<br />
== When They Came For Me. ==<br />
<br />
I cant remember the title, but the GE/EN translation is a poem, using symbolic animals as humans during WWII. a title would help, but I forget. good luck.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Electric|Electric]] 14:20, 23 March 2007 (PDT)</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:The_Presence&diff=7866Talk:The Presence2007-03-23T21:04:37Z<p>Electric: Delete What? (Theory)</p>
<hr />
<div>Another pointless theory :- The photographs of the Presence, excluding the "fake photograph", appear to be right handed. So does the spectograph image found with My Violent Heart. Could this imply that the presence is essentially the right hand of God? It was said somewhere (not on the year zero related websites) that with his left hand God is said to care for and protect life on earth, where as with the right hand righteous relationships with God are restored. So is God flexing his authority in the form of the presence as an attempt to regain balance in the world? A couple of things that my disprove this idea is the fact there is no obvious thumb on the presence, and that the scribble of the presence in the consolidated mail seems to be left handed...<br />
<br />
--[[User:Quentin|Quentin]] 20:05, 21 February 2007 (PST)<br />
<br />
All the times I've ever heard of God doing something of a supportive nature it was with His right hand, and opposite with His left hand.--[[User:Velvolver|Velvolver]] 11:16, 4 March 2007 (PST)<br />
<br />
The Presence on the album cover looks like a left-hand to me. --[[User:Mr z|Mr z]] 12:26, 4 March 2007 (PST)<br />
<br />
All things considered, I doubt God has anything to do with it. It will most likely be left up to interpretation, and we will probably never know what it is cannonically. --[[User:Thesmokingman|Thesmokingman]] 15:21, 4 March 2007 (PST)<br />
:Regardless of if it is or is not related to God, it is hard to ignore the many biblical referances, specifically to the Book of Revelation. If nothing else, Year Zero appears to be at least partially inspired by the vision of the end of the world presented in the Book of Revelation.<br />
<br />
According to the new judson Ogram site, the presence is an alien lifeform (not space aliens, but most likely an earth spirit or something)...and according to the old judson ogram site (John of Boston's) it's religious phenomenon.<br />
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Furthermore, it should be noted that people who discuss the presence publically are arrested and sent to the funny farm by Da Man.--[[User:Velvolver|Velvolver]] 13:49, 15 March 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Delete What? (Theory) ==<br />
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Excuse me...If you check out the YEAR ZERO promo on yearzero.nin.com, the one where it's taking a video of the country side. Their is a very brief, split second (and i mean split), where a strange noise is heard and blue rushes across the screen. i pause the video, and scrolled back. on the first line it says...<br />
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''I'M TRYING''<br />
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on the second, it says...<br />
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''TO DELETE''<br />
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any ideas, views?<br />
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--[[User:Electric|Electric]] 14:04, 23 March 2007 (PDT)</div>Electrichttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=User:Electric&diff=7855User:Electric2007-03-23T20:26:01Z<p>Electric: </p>
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<div>eMERSED.</div>Electric