https://www.nin.wiki/api.php?action=feedcontributions&user=JFerminger&feedformat=atomnin.wiki - User contributions [en]2024-03-29T08:48:24ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.34.4https://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Viability_Index&diff=31162Talk:Viability Index2010-08-16T03:17:13Z<p>JFerminger: /* Maybe New Orleans didn't sink...? */</p>
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<div>this mentions it is the first Year Zero website to link to a modern-day website but isn't this true for trinity episcopalian and omega industries? [[User:Ylbissop|Ylbissop]] 21:27, 16 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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==more then one version of the block of lines in booklets?==<br />
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i immed. went to the block in my cd booklet, and its entirely different, its only half the size and no matter what which way i flip or spin it, it doesnt match any of the one for this site. should we possibly scan up and share our various lineblocks to see if theres more to it? (mine is on the page for meet your master, booklet ID: B0008764-02) --[[User:Killjoy|killjoy]] 17:40, 17 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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this may be a good idea seeing as the rest of viability index is in this picture i'm pretty sure http://www.flickr.com/photos/astralpunch/458446939/in/pool-360026@N21/ where is the apropriate ets thread for these lineblocks? [[User:Ylbissop|ylbissop]] 02:18, 8 May 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Maybe New Orleans didn't sink...? ==<br />
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Something I noticed...<br />
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This article states "New Orleans also has a viability index of 0, presumably because it (along with most of southern Louisiana) disappeared under the ocean years before Year Zero." Where is this stated in Year Zero canon? I think this may be be a false presumption.<br />
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In the "wretched" wreckage (http://themailstrom.com/wretched_Ypq2QQ.htm), the following quote can be found: "“Urmia is like Detroit or New Orleans or St. Louis. Abandoned. Only with more guns and less nice stuff.” If a location was under the ocean (like Miami is stated to be) would a person call this abandoned? The Viability Index even gives Miami a score even though it is confirmed as being under water! <br />
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Something else that is interesting, three cities are mentioned in the "wretched" wreckage: Detroit, New Orleans, and St. Louis. On the Viability Index, Detroit is not listed at all, New Orleans is listed with no information and a 0 score, and St. Louis is listed with information and a score of 3.7.<br />
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Regardless, just wanted to throw this out there. Not a big deal, but it did throw me off. 'Course, I'm new here, so maybe that explains it. Thanks!<br />
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:I was just going off of the link that shows the rising sea levels. It's said a couple of times that the sea level rise in YZ was actually worse than predicted by (real world) climate scientists. Then again, especially with regards to the Miami point you made, I don't think continuity was a big priority for the creative team here. [[User:JFerminger|JFerminger]] 20:17, 15 August 2010 (PDT)</div>JFermingerhttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Red_Horse_Vector&diff=22899Red Horse Vector2008-09-21T02:26:07Z<p>JFerminger: /* Video */</p>
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<div>http://www.redhorsevector.net/<br />
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== Discovery ==<br />
This website was found by cleaning up a distorted voice at 2:24 on [[The Great Destroyer]]. More information in [http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?t=22470 this] ETS thread.<br />
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== Content ==<br />
This website talks about the Red Horse virus, an Ebola like virus which is less likely to fail due to climate conditions. There's information on symptoms, development, and also the development of a vaccine. It's also revealed through a video that this was the virus used to kill Jed Mather, the American diplomat, in Algeria.<br />
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The description of the symptoms coincide with those from the Star Chamber incident, described on the [[U.S. Wiretap]] website and the [[12163331810]] phone call. The website mentions a number of severe side effects associated with the vaccine for Red Horse. It is possible that these symptoms were present in the federal agent overseeing the cleansing of the Star Chamber.<br />
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Also of interest: the memo on the site is sent to Vox telecommunications, Cedocore, and the Plano Church.<br />
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===Video===<br />
There's a video on the website which shows American diplomat Jed Mather suffering the effects of the virus. The virus seems to cause him to bleed excessively, not unlike the Ebola virus mentioned above. As this happens he gets progressively more violent and disturbed, smashing chairs against the window of the room where the camera is. The video then cuts to him lying on the ground, dead and covered in blood, along with a dog that he presumably murdered with his bare hands.<br />
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This is a translation of what is said in French by one of the terrorists on the beginning of the video:<br />
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''This guy, leaves the embassy without escort, it believes like that we will help him, he believes we will keep him, to drive his car with his dog, without bodyguard, and that we will say, look, it is American not like the others, it will be our friend that one...''<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
* CONUS stands for Continental United States and it's used as a military abbreviation.<br />
* TRVA stands for Threat - Risk - Vulnerability Assessment<br />
* When the sound cuts off from the video for several seconds, normalizing the audio reveals Jed Mather yelling [http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?p=946216#946216 "Abort The Test"].<br />
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== Hidden Numbers == <br />
24.9.2 on the website.<br />
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24.9.1 on the video file name.<br />
== Video ==<br />
You can get it directly from the website, or watch it on {{Youtube|qmXPmuJFliA|YouTube}}.<br />
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[[Category:World of Year Zero]]</div>JFermingerhttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Viability_Index&diff=22898Viability Index2008-09-21T02:22:33Z<p>JFerminger: /* Content */</p>
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<div>http://www.viabilityindex.com/<br />
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Number: [[Year_Zero_Numbers#24.06.01|24.06.01]]<br />
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Background Text: [[Year_Zero_Banned_Media#The Simple Art of Murder|The Simple Art of Murder by Raymond Chandler ]]<br />
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== Discovery ==<br />
Viability Index is scrambled in line code on different localized US and UK versions of the [[Year Zero]] CD booklets as well as a flier from the OSR LA meeting. One or two pieces are missing.<br />
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[[Image:Viability index.jpg|Compiled lines from US/UK CD booklets and OSR LA meetup flier]]<br />
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== Content ==<br />
Viability Index is a real estate guide. Showing cities affected by the "climate change," this site offers advice on how to sell your property in that area or whether or not to invest there. Each city is scored according to climate, toxicity, economic outlook, your neighbors, and long-term outlook, resulting in the viability index for that city. The higher the number, the better the quality of life.<br />
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The portents are grim; every city depicted is wracked by some kind of disaster on a regular basis. Alaska is temperate. Mexico City is "hell on earth." Los Angeles and New Orleans both have index scores of 0.<br />
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The site is darkly humorous. For example, the entry for Philadelphia, which in Year Zero has become incredibly overcrowded due to people moving from more coastal locations, shows a picture of a pink flamingo in front of the Liberty Bell. Each city has "The Facts," a brief description of problems with the city, and "The Spin," some lines to help entice for potential buyers. Even Lagos, Nigeria, the lowest-rated city on the site (rated 0.4 in a system with 4 at the average), while described as lethally hot, lawless, and squalid, has the silver lining of "Land is cheap, though." Oddly enough, the LA dirty bombs have happened already, so the Los Angeles page is n/a for both The Facts and The Spin and has a viability index of 0.0. New Orleans also has a viability index of 0, presumably because it (along with most of southern Louisiana) disappeared under the ocean years before Year Zero.<br />
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Interestingly the Viability index links to modern-day, Year -15 websites. The page for Charlotte, North Carolina, includes a link to [http://www.geo.arizona.edu/dgesl/research/other/climate_change_and_sea_level/sea_level_rise/northeast/slr_usane_a.htm an animation depicting the impact of sea levels rising]. Pages for several other cities link to descriptions of environmental concerns, hinting that the climate change problems of Year Zero have their genesis in current weather phenomenon.<br />
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[[Category:World of Year Zero]]</div>JFermingerhttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Grace_The_Teacher&diff=22897Talk:Grace The Teacher2008-09-21T02:18:14Z<p>JFerminger: /* Dina and Red Horse */</p>
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<div>===Dina and Red Horse===<br />
Jeremiah's girlfriend was born in Tajikistan, the same place where the experiment of Red Horse was made. Does her family might have some connection with that?<br />
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:Not likely, since the Red Horse virus was first chronicled a couple of years before Year Zero, while Dina moved to the U.S. when she was a toddler (presumably 10-15 years before). [[User:JFerminger|JFerminger]] 19:18, 20 September 2008 (PDT)<br />
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Where does it say anywhere in the pages that this journal chronicles Darren Kroupa? The only name I see that refers to the writer is Jeremiah Snow... his mother says "Jeremiah Snow, where did you get that [beer]?" I can't find anything that says Kroupa. [[User:Jgrizzy89|Jgrizzy89]] 15:43, 5 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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:Think I might have jumped the gun on that, I'll change it -[[User:Velvolver|Velvolver]] 15:47, 5 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Thanks to Deamos_ in the IRC room for figuring out the Morse code (I think it was him), and nunzilla for getting the text excerpt! -[[User:Velvolver|Velvolver]] 15:47, 5 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Also, didn't the name Jeremiah Snow show up somewhere before? I can't think of where though... It just sounds extremely familiar... [[User:Jgrizzy89|Jgrizzy89]] 15:49, 5 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Jeremiah is the 24th book of the Bible (remember when people thought the 24.x.x were Bible references?), and there's at least one verse, Jeremiah 18:14, about snow. ''Does the snow of Lebanon desert the rocky heights? Do the gushing waters dry up that flow fresh down the mountains?'' -[[User:J.theYellow|J.]] 22:35, 5 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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If there's a good forum for tracking and discussion, I'm happy to post there instead of here. ;-)<br />
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I did time with The Beast, and this feels familiar with regards to that ARG. It feels like we're getting confirmation that:<br />
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a) The numbers are a reference number system for the clues<br />
b) there's a connection between the number system and the bible passages after all<br />
c) WE are the Pilgrims. The Pilgrim Stream is the name for the series of clues.<br />
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Pilgrims are seekers. They go on a journey, traditionally following some type of trail. Look at holy pilgrimages.<br />
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BTW, I listened too AVotT repeatedly on my 1200W sound system, AND poked at it in Audacity, and I can't figure out where the heck the Morse code was found. :-P [[User:The Angelus|The Angelus]] 18:08, 6 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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The Location of the morse code is at 3:33 to 3:55. I am not too gifted at wiki editing otherwise I would have updated it myself. All the information to finish it is posted on ETS [[User:Deamos|Deamos]] 15:08, 7 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Feb 4th -> Feb 10th ==<br />
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Notice how he says he's taking his GED on Feb 4th 0000. Yet Hannah dies on Feb 4th, and he takes his GED on Feb 10th. That wouldn't be such a big deal, except the distortion on the Another Version of the Truth forums shows a post at Feb 4th 0000 in the distortion, then at Feb 10th 0000 in the clickable page. Did something happen on Feb 4th or Feb 10th?<br />
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-- good point, you notice how if you click on feb 10 and click previous, it doesn't go to the previous entry which is the 8th, it goes to the fifth of feb.<br />
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Feb 04: The nurse said that we couldn’t be back there and they hustled us out. I felt sick and I wanted to<br />
punch something but I didn’t want to upset mom so I walked down the hallway to the drinking<br />
fountain and took a big long drink of water.<br />
(And some woman says she sees the presence)<br />
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Feb 05: I feel guilty because while we’ve been here we’ve had fast food and it tasted great. Even the water<br />
here tastes normal after well water.<br />
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Between feb 04 and feb 10 he goes back on the water. I don't know, there's a missing link, maybe they're both the same day.<br />
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== "Me, I'm Not" connection? ==<br />
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After reading Grace the Teacher, it ocurred to me that it might be influenced by "Me, I'm Not." Particularly the bit about how he keeps stealing beer from the gas station and never gets caught, and how wracked he is by his new, exploding emotions. "I define myself by how well I hide." "If I knew back then what I know right now..."<br />
[[User:Saturnine_night|Saturnine Night]]<br />
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== Worth 999 Words. ==<br />
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Mmkay...in the diary, there are three pictures. Ones obviously the trailer home. The second is his [ex-]girlfriend Dina...and the third I'm going to take a shot and say Hannah?--[[User:Electric|Electric]] 09:14, 7 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
:I'd say that's it. [[User:JFerminger|JFerminger]] 19:16, 20 September 2008 (PDT)</div>JFermingerhttps://www.nin.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Grace_The_Teacher&diff=22896Talk:Grace The Teacher2008-09-21T02:16:50Z<p>JFerminger: /* Worth 999 Words. */</p>
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<div>===Dina and Red Horse===<br />
Jeremiah's girlfriend was born in Tajikistan, the same place where the experiment of Red Horse was made. Does her family might have some connection with that?<br />
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Where does it say anywhere in the pages that this journal chronicles Darren Kroupa? The only name I see that refers to the writer is Jeremiah Snow... his mother says "Jeremiah Snow, where did you get that [beer]?" I can't find anything that says Kroupa. [[User:Jgrizzy89|Jgrizzy89]] 15:43, 5 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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:Think I might have jumped the gun on that, I'll change it -[[User:Velvolver|Velvolver]] 15:47, 5 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Thanks to Deamos_ in the IRC room for figuring out the Morse code (I think it was him), and nunzilla for getting the text excerpt! -[[User:Velvolver|Velvolver]] 15:47, 5 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Also, didn't the name Jeremiah Snow show up somewhere before? I can't think of where though... It just sounds extremely familiar... [[User:Jgrizzy89|Jgrizzy89]] 15:49, 5 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Jeremiah is the 24th book of the Bible (remember when people thought the 24.x.x were Bible references?), and there's at least one verse, Jeremiah 18:14, about snow. ''Does the snow of Lebanon desert the rocky heights? Do the gushing waters dry up that flow fresh down the mountains?'' -[[User:J.theYellow|J.]] 22:35, 5 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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If there's a good forum for tracking and discussion, I'm happy to post there instead of here. ;-)<br />
<br />
I did time with The Beast, and this feels familiar with regards to that ARG. It feels like we're getting confirmation that:<br />
<br />
a) The numbers are a reference number system for the clues<br />
b) there's a connection between the number system and the bible passages after all<br />
c) WE are the Pilgrims. The Pilgrim Stream is the name for the series of clues.<br />
<br />
Pilgrims are seekers. They go on a journey, traditionally following some type of trail. Look at holy pilgrimages.<br />
<br />
BTW, I listened too AVotT repeatedly on my 1200W sound system, AND poked at it in Audacity, and I can't figure out where the heck the Morse code was found. :-P [[User:The Angelus|The Angelus]] 18:08, 6 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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The Location of the morse code is at 3:33 to 3:55. I am not too gifted at wiki editing otherwise I would have updated it myself. All the information to finish it is posted on ETS [[User:Deamos|Deamos]] 15:08, 7 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Feb 4th -> Feb 10th ==<br />
<br />
Notice how he says he's taking his GED on Feb 4th 0000. Yet Hannah dies on Feb 4th, and he takes his GED on Feb 10th. That wouldn't be such a big deal, except the distortion on the Another Version of the Truth forums shows a post at Feb 4th 0000 in the distortion, then at Feb 10th 0000 in the clickable page. Did something happen on Feb 4th or Feb 10th?<br />
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-- good point, you notice how if you click on feb 10 and click previous, it doesn't go to the previous entry which is the 8th, it goes to the fifth of feb.<br />
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Feb 04: The nurse said that we couldn’t be back there and they hustled us out. I felt sick and I wanted to<br />
punch something but I didn’t want to upset mom so I walked down the hallway to the drinking<br />
fountain and took a big long drink of water.<br />
(And some woman says she sees the presence)<br />
<br />
Feb 05: I feel guilty because while we’ve been here we’ve had fast food and it tasted great. Even the water<br />
here tastes normal after well water.<br />
<br />
Between feb 04 and feb 10 he goes back on the water. I don't know, there's a missing link, maybe they're both the same day.<br />
<br />
== "Me, I'm Not" connection? ==<br />
<br />
After reading Grace the Teacher, it ocurred to me that it might be influenced by "Me, I'm Not." Particularly the bit about how he keeps stealing beer from the gas station and never gets caught, and how wracked he is by his new, exploding emotions. "I define myself by how well I hide." "If I knew back then what I know right now..."<br />
[[User:Saturnine_night|Saturnine Night]]<br />
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== Worth 999 Words. ==<br />
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Mmkay...in the diary, there are three pictures. Ones obviously the trailer home. The second is his [ex-]girlfriend Dina...and the third I'm going to take a shot and say Hannah?--[[User:Electric|Electric]] 09:14, 7 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
:I'd say that's it. [[User:JFerminger|JFerminger]] 19:16, 20 September 2008 (PDT)</div>JFerminger