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:Because it's a song on TFA, and it's debatable what it's a remix of, or even if it's a remix. --[[User:Tony|Tony]]<sup>[[User_talk:Tony|converse!]]</sup> 12:11, 30 August 2007 (PDT)
:We could just put it forward to people in the chat and see what they think. I mean, it could either be listed as a remix of "[[The Wretched]]" or get its own page, on which there could be a note about the debate over whether it's a remix or an original.--[[User:Leo3375|Leo3375]] 12:22, 30 August 2007 (PDT)
::andallthatcouldhavebeen.com (dead link now, but there's a backup somewhere, but i forget where) said it was a song recorded for [[The Fragile (halo)|The Fragile]], but wasn't finished in time, so Trent slapped those lyrics from "The Wretched" in to finish it for inclusion on [[Things Falling Apart]]. -[[User:Heroicraptor|Heroicraptor]] 13:23, 30 August 2007 (PDT)
 
==Inclusion in NIN Instrumentals category==
totally disagreed with that edit. this isn't instrumental, period. - [[User:Seasonsinthesky|seasonsinthesky]] 13:24, 13 December 2010 (PST)
:<!--lol, period -->I see it as voice being used as an instrument personally. Do we have references to it elsewhere to qualify its status? [[User:Sheepdean|sheepdean]] [[User_talk:Sheepdean|Try to speak as clearly as you can]] 13:42, 13 December 2010 (PST)
::voice as an instrument would be scat singing. TR whispers/yells words. there's a pretty clear dividing line there, and it's pretty clear the side on which TGC sits. [[User:Seasonsinthesky|seasonsinthesky]] 14:14, 13 December 2010 (PST)
:::La Mer? [[User:Sheepdean|sheepdean]] [[User_talk:Sheepdean|Try to speak as clearly as you can]] 15:00, 13 December 2010 (PST)
:::has samples, not singing! - [[User:Seasonsinthesky|seasonsinthesky]] 16:29, 13 December 2010 (PST)
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::::also samples XD this isn't a difficult difference to grasp! - [[User:Seasonsinthesky|seasonsinthesky]] 09:08, 15 December 2010 (PST)
:::::{stupid wordfilter} just make new category for "almost" instrumentals to suit TGC, La mer, Hyperpower, Pilgrimage, 999999, etc. [[User:BenAkenobi|BenAkenobi]] 23:22, 13 December 2010 (PST)
::::::i dunno if i agree with that. a song is either instrumental or it isn't, methinks. the line between a vocal track and a sample is pretty clear in TR's music, for the most part. e.g. all the tracks you listed are instrumental except TGC. - [[User:Seasonsinthesky|seasonsinthesky]] 09:08, 15 December 2010 (PST)
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