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== This is pretty idiotic ==
Not only are there multiple grammatical and spelling errors on this page, but the theories section is completely off base. If you want Sorry to have that 'non-political non-threatening' explanation of what the song is about, than, alright, it's a theory. But this song is blatantly about President George W. Bush. Not only does it say 'I pushed erase the button and elected ''him'' to office" it then says "and ''he'' signs ''his'' name with a capital G". Also, if Trent Reznor is singing from the point of view of someone who used to 'stand for something' and no longer cares for other people/things, and this person is the one that put capital G into office, then it's safe to assume Reznor is saying that those who put him into office are these such people. Not only do the lyrics STRONGLY suggest this as the true meaning of the songdebate, but the incident Reznor had with MTV, along with how many times during the With_Teeth tour that he used images of Bush to portray the negative aspects of his song lyrics, both provide a background to his feelings towards Bush and what he meaning has done as a President. Whether these opinions accurately reflect his fans or not, or if this interpretation would offend anyone who read it, does not matter, as it is clearly Reznor's view. [[User:Jgrizzy89|Jgrizzy89]] 18now come straight from the horses mouth:48, 10 April 2007 (PDT)
At this German magazine: http:I think theories should stay at the bottom of the page, we don't want every yahoo posting their interpretations of songs//www.motor.de/motormeinung/motor.de/nine_inch_nails_der_apokalyptische_reiter. For examplehtmlthey ask: I know some goth kid is going to think the great destroyer is about himself (barf) when it's infact about (atleast I think) about a vector for Red Horse. Plus why would capital Capital G be about GW when this is way way after GW went out of office? 14 years to be exactscheint aber schon ziemlich deutlich auf George W. G could stand for Greedzugeschnitten zu sein, oder?or any other character in the ARG that has been elected. So in shortroughly, not for sure it's "Capital G is about the current president as of today -[[User:Velvolver|Velvolver]] 11:31George W., 11 April 2007 (PDT)right?"
:: Leo's been the one moving it to the top. So far the only theories being posted are the more or less widly accepted ones. People are free to elaborate, but if you feel a theory is unknown or not widly held you're encouraged to move it to the talk section :D -- [[User:BurnHavoc|BurnHavoc]] 3:04, 11 April 2007 (EST)
Trent responds:If there is going to be a Theories subsection in the articles, it makes more sense for it to be near the top, with the rest of the general information about the song (Meanings, interpretations, relationships, etc"Capital G.)" bedeutet "Greed".or"Capital G" refers to "Greed"
:As for the theory that it's about George W. Bush, it makes sense because he's the one who attacked other sovereign nations without Congressional approval.
:That's what I think anywaybut he does go on to say that it can be applied to Bush, or whomever you feel appropriate.--[[User:Leo3375|Leo3375]] 12:12, 11 April 2007 (PDT)
:: While I would normally support that, the concept album is supposed to have been "transported" back in time from year zero, so Bush wouldn't be very accurate as he hasn't been in power for almost a decade and a half decades by year zero. I'm supporting of the theory that it's in regard to government regulated beliefs. It's a reference to hardliner christians who control religion in the country, the types who get angry if you type god insted of God. HeInfo's basically commenting on the fucked up state people are in with accepting a government regulated belief in "God" rather than the individual beliefs in whatever form of god you prefer. I've frequented places online where I've been threatened with kickbans and IP bans for not capitalizing the G in god so I can perfectly well understand where this song is probally comming from. -- [[User:BurnHavoc|BurnHavoc]] 16:10, April 11 2007 (EST) ::: @Leo: Facts first, theory second. It's a pretty standard convention for wiki-writing, stemming from generally accepted journalism and encyclopedia style guides, and it just makes sense. Casual readers can get meaningful info (lyrics, dates performed, remixes etc) without having to slog through a dozen conflicting theories about what the song means if theory-stuff is at the bottom. ::: I'm also in the camp that capital G does not refer to GWB. Yes, Reznor has openly bashed him, and I agree 100% with those sentiments... but that's just not what's being referenced here. The big G could be God, Government, Greed... possibly Guns, but that doesn't feel right. ::: Hey, it's art, not a lecture. Maybe it's intentionally *gasp* open added to interpretation. -- [[User:Dij|Dij]] 16:34, April 11 2007 (EST) :::: While I agree to certain degrees, there IS a table on contents for a reason. Nontheless if you feel that that kinda stuff should be at the bottom, you are free to edit all the pages and move them down. Just try to be consistant and move them ALL down rather than just one or two. -- [[User:BurnHavoc|BurnHavoc]] 16:56, April 11 2007 (EST) I just don't see why an overview of Theories should be kept separate from information such as a song's meaning and interpretations. Isn't a theory a type of song interpretation? For now I'm keeping the Theories sections where they are, and any elaboration on them should be on that particular article's Discussion main page. That is what we're doing here, for example.--[[User:Leo3375|Leo3375]] 13:54, 11 April 2007 (PDT) : I think he's suggusting that both sections Theories and Miscellaneous (and possibly credits to appear after or before Lyrics) should be put below Appearances, Versions and Lyrics, not just move or remove the theories section itself, that way more relevant facts about the songs are up front and the interpertations and opinions are later on in the article. -- [[User:BurnHavoc|BurnHavoc]] 17:33, April 11 2007 (EST) Can I write a description for it? :D --[[User:GrayscaleRain|GrayscaleRain]] 14:36, 11 April 2007 (PDT) Just in case you guys didn't remember, Congress now (now being in the future) decides who the President is after the First Female President is elected (maybe a vague approval of Trent towards Hillary?) is impeached [http://ninwiki.com/Another_Version_of_the_Truth_%28website%29#Revisionism]. Therefore, the possibility that a Religious Republican Congress who would impeach a female president, would bring back George W. Bush to be President (as there is no elections) is pretty high. Especially given the fact that we go to war with Iran and Syria (both of which, according to Bush, are evil).  ::Yeah guys, remember. To think is song is about GWB is to throw the entire Year Zero timeline out of the window. We are two presidents after GWB, and to think he'd be reelected is a bit silly as 1. There is no proof to offer this 2. He'd be 75 in year zero, WAY too old. Also global warming is a NON issue in Guatamala today. The issue today is at the North and South Poles. Forget about TODAY, this album and song are about the future, everyone seems to forget that. The electing him to office line still makes sense. Remember the public elected the new, lifelong president into office, only AFTER did congress suspend elections. --[[User:organizm|organizm]] 3:31, 13 April 2007 (EST):: To me the song is talking about the need for greed and power, without concern for the human cost. He's not worried about global warming, about poor people (self accountablity) and talks about how the problem with all of that is that there will be less for him. Seems VERY clear to me Capital G is referring to Greed.
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