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Now, I'm really uppity about keeping the lyrics as they appear in their respective liner notes. However, I would like some clarification as to which version should be used. Should we use what was printed with the single and album, or should we instead go with what was said in the song itself?[[User:Leo3375|Leo3375]] 13:18, 6 April 2007 (PDT)
We should probably use what is said in the song and then put a notice on the bottom saying that the song says 'this' however the liner notes say 'this'... as we should probably do with Eraser [[User:Jgrizzy89|Jgrizzy89]] 13:35, 6 April 2007 (PDT)
I like that idea but I think it should be the reverse. What is printed in the liner notes should be the lyrics with a note below them indicating the differennce between what is printed and what was said. But that's just me.[[User:Leo3375|Leo3375]] 13:39, 6 April 2007 (PDT)
Compromise excepted! :) [[User:Jgrizzy89|Jgrizzy89]] 13:51, 6 April 2007 (PDT)
== Trent Arrested? ==
Um I really didn't know where to put this so I'll put it here and on Terminal. Ok supposedly he (trent) was taken away while recording survivalism, but on Terminal the evidence you can listen to is actually Capital G. Just thought that was a weird kind of mix up Idk.-[[User:Kickemwhentheyredown|Kickemwhentheyredown]] 15:43, 16 April 2007 (PDT)
:I don't know if it's too crazy to asume he was just arrested for subversive material, and considering that Survivalism and Capital G are his too singles, it's safe to assume he was arrested for both, but Capital G caught their attention more, or something :) ... [[User:Jgrizzy89|Jgrizzy89]] 17:32, 16 April 2007 (PDT)
::Also (very crazy theory) if all of this is being sent back to us from Year Zero, maybe they were all sent in reverse order... like in Year Zero, Capital G was the first single, Then the album came out, then Survivalism came out (and then he was arrested)... and since it was sent back to us in reverse order (presuming Capital G is next single...) then Survivalism came to us first, then the album released, then Capital G will come out as the next single... that could work??? lol (told you it was a little crazy... just speaking what's at the top of my mind...) [[User:Jgrizzy89|Jgrizzy89]] 17:32, 16 April 2007 (PDT)
== Opalheartclinic Lyrics ==
Obviously, the lyrics to this remix are almost completely different from the "Tardusted" remix and the album original. Has anyone been able to transcribe the lyrics yet? And if so, do you think it would be worth posting them on this page?--[[User:Leo3375|Leo3375]] 12:45, 3 May 2007 (PDT)
:Then you gotta think about transcribing the Gave Up remix's lyrics and Fist Fuck's lyrics. -[[User:Heroicraptor|Heroicraptor]] 22:25, 21 August 2007 (PDT)
== Obfuscated lyrics ==
There seems to be several obfuscated lyrics in this song, for example, I recently started to hear "I can see right through myself" on the right channel at 4:13. I'm not completely sure though, but if that's true it's actually repeated starting from 3:33 until 4:13.
Can someone confirm this? [[User:2072|2072]] 14:11, 22 November 2009 (PST)
:have you checked out the multitracks? - [[User:Seasonsinthesky|Seasonsinthesky]] 15:24, 22 November 2009 (PST)
::I was a bit curious as to what was being sung during this part of the song as well so I isolated the part with the multitracks and found out that it's Trent repeating "I got survivalism" in a distorted and echoing manner which changes somewhat each time. http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/6/12/64610/Survivalism.mp3 [[User:Kornwolf|Kornwolf]] 20:17, 9 February 2010 (PST)
:::Was that meant to be hard to hear? I knew that was there and thought you guys were talking about something totally different :S [[User:Sheepdean|sheepdean]] [[User_talk:Sheepdean|Try to speak as clearly as you can]] 06:38, 10 February 2010 (PST)
::::Well it's a bit hard to hear/understand in the song, but as you can tell when it's isolated, it's easily understandable. I knew he was saying survivalism, but I couldn't make out anything else before I isolated it. [[User:Kornwolf|Kornwolf]] 09:40, 10 February 2010 (PST)
:I didn't come back to this page since I posted (the 'watch this page' option isn't working for me it seems :/). I was just about to fix my mistake since I heard the lyrics correctly for the first time earlier today, "I got survivalism", it makes a lot more sense indeed. I didn't know it was also on the left channel though. Thanks everybody :) [[User:2072|2072]] 18:35, 6 March 2010 (PST)