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::true, but it could have been an inspiration... [[User:Tocz|Tocz]] 15:05, 27 November 2007 (PST)
:::Maybe, but it's just speculation. --[[User:Tony|Tony]]<sup>[[User_talk:Tony|converse!]]</sup> 08:15, 28 November 2007 (PST)